I was NOT expecting this. After a 24 hour test drive in the 70D yesterday, I put a deposit down and have a week to change things. The store asked me to also take the P85D and 85D for 24 hours each to make sure I really wanted the 70D. Those bastards! My impressions, focused on performance: (Context: I had a BMW M5, an Audi S4, and an MV Agusta F4-1000 previously) The 70D is fast, in a luxury sedan kind of way. It gets off the line really well, but the power really starts to taper off around freeway speeds. Passing on the freeway leaves something to be desired. The P85D is absurd. I literally haven't felt anything like it before. I actually used profanity the first time I launched it. All alone in the car, a grown man swearing at nobody because it was so fast. Again, it tapers off at high freeway speeds, but passes well up to around 100MPH. The 30k premium is a bit steep, though. The 85D is the surprise underdog here. I expected the 70D to be "fast enough", and the $10k difference to the 85D to be lacking. "Besides," I told myself, "if you want fast, just upgrade to the P85D" What I realized is that the performance difference between the 70D and 85D is WAY more noticeable than between the 85D and P85D. AND, the more noticeable difference comes at the bargain price of just $10k, PLUS you get a bit more range as a bonus. Seriously - If you think the 85D is the red-headed stepchild in the family, I encourage you to take all three out for a spin. I'm thinking the 85D is actually the sweet spot!