Zaphod
Galaxy President (former)
Well, I'm glad we all know your exact address now.
You are quite naive at what personal info you are posting.
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You are quite naive at what personal info you are posting.
JohnSnowNW
Active Member
Tesla Issues Response To Model S Suspension Failure Allegations
It's pretty obvious that Keef is authoring the reports...if you look at the NHTSA report directly after the one Mr. Cordaro wrote you can clearly see that the banned member "Lucille" appears to have written that one. Lucille most likely being a sock puppet account of Keef's based on writing style and content.
The evidence overwhelmingly points to Keef having authored many of the NHTSA reports about suspension issues, as well as others non-related to suspension.
Seems odd to deny this, considering the strength of the evidence.
Even if all those were filed by the same person, it does not imply the information is incorrect. Or correct. Tesla owners cum shareholders are loathe to report issues to NHTSA in fear of the NDA and also their TSLA holdings. Just look at how the OP has been treated here. That's the norm.
And to Keef Wivanef's credit, he busted a solar scam in Australia once. There is an Youtube video of him appearing on Australian TV on that issue. When the lamestream media just regurgitates what the powerful say, there got to be a few who stand up and do the real research.
As the blog says, take a mouthful of salt before believing anything Mr. Musk says. He has been proven wrong many times. Two weeks ago, he said, Roadster safety was terrible. Now, he claims Tesla cars have always been the safest. A mouthful of salt always helps when interpreting Musk comments.
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JohnSnowNW
Active Member
Well, I'm glad we all know your exact address now.
In all fairness, even though it is often easy to dig up people's physical address and such, doxing is not cool.
But you were off-roading out of warranty.
I think the real question is - having seen the photos you posted - why didn't you hear/notice what would have been some very obvious sounds coming from the area? Did you have the car serviced or inspected?
It clearly didn't just happen - it degraded over time.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I, too, have experienced Tesla service going "above and beyond" many times. I only wish you hadn't found yourself forced to tradeoff a Model III reservation against a repair cost. Although when the alternative is medical costs, it's clear you have your priorities in the right order.
Alan
Tesla Revises Customer Nondisclosure Agreements
Tesla Revises Customer Nondisclosure Agreements
New terms make clear reporting safety issues to regulators isn’t prohibited
Tesla Revises Customer Nondisclosure Agreements
New terms make clear reporting safety issues to regulators isn’t prohibited
I do think that Tesla needs to remove the off-road portion of the warranty exclusion. The rest reads like an Infiniti or Mercedes limited warranty. No need to call out off-road which is too broad. The basic clause that protects automakers is the collision one... they don't cover if something hit the vehicle or if the vehicle hit something. That should be enough. i wouldn't be surprised if Tesla lawyers went over restrictive at the beginning... now that they are far more established, they don't need more restrictive language.
This could get more interesting, we are likely to hear from more owners that signed the NDA's in the past.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
They probably added a line clarifying that it is not prohibited to notify NHTSA about safe issues (not that the OP thought that in the first place, as noted in the article). I speculated that, but didn't post it. I didn't really expect them to stop using NDAs since NHTSA's comments didn't say the use of NDAs for goodwill repairs are improper (even though a bunch of people commenting so far have implied that).
Right, they warned Tesla to not do something that they are not doing.
If the DoD warns you not to set off nuclear bombs in your garage, does that mean you are doing so?
Or does that simply mean that the DoD got some bad information from your neighbor that doesn't like you?
Oh, and reading the WSJ article, this discrepancy struck me, having just read the LA Times article...
WSJ:
LA Times [http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-tesla-suspension-response-20160610-snap-story.html]:
I do not know the OP's nor understand his motivation in all this, but his loose relationship with facts does not help the credibility of his message.
WSJ:
LA Times [http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-tesla-suspension-response-20160610-snap-story.html]:
I do not know the OP's nor understand his motivation in all this, but his loose relationship with facts does not help the credibility of his message.
2, 10, 100? What's the difference? Once or twice? If it is once, then it's once. Twice is not once. Maybe once you get to 7 or 8, you forget. Or maybe even 4-5. But once or twice?
Again, when was the last time this vehicle had an annual inspection? Those are the people that Mr. Cordaro should be going after. After all, it's about safety! The mechanics that did his last annual inspection should be lambasted for failing to catch this issue. It's about safety! Unless he didn't one in the past year. Has he ever gotten one?
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What's the problem to sign a NDA?
You can choose not sign it
Just pay your repair cost for your unwarranted car
Ball joints are no longer made with grease fittings and haven't been for decades. See earlier in the thread when I asked why you wouldn't just lubricate the ball joints through through the grease fitting and got multiple replies that they don't make ball joints like that anymore.
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