Tesla called - said they have a car available - but does not have ultrasonic sensors - what does it mean?

[aoysgelt]

Have been on waiting list for a while - hoping to get HW4. Estimated delivery in app says "March 2 - March 18." Somebody from Tesla called - said they have a car - but it does not have ultrasonic sensors. What does it mean - has HW4, HW3 w/o ultrasonic sensors, etc. Are newly built ones different?

A bit confusing - would appreciate more insight before calling them back.

Thank you

 

[Npate2]

Have been on waiting list for a while - hoping to get HW4. Estimated delivery in app says "March 2 - March 18." Somebody from Tesla called - said they have a car - but it does not have ultrasonic sensors. What does it mean - has HW4, HW3 w/o ultrasonic sensors, etc. Are newly built ones different?

A bit confusing - would appreciate more insight before calling them back.

Thank you

It seems that there is no official statement on HW4 at of time of writing. Last night on EV CPO, model S and X cars with a HW4 filter showed up. To my understanding, if this is correct, the model S and X cars will have HW4 soon/already and the 3 and Y will receive it much later.

That being said, this car they called you about is likely a HW3 w/o ultrasonic sensors (same as the late 2022 Model Y cars).

Newly built cars should be the same, but there have been some reports saying Model Y cars built in Fremont (don’t know if all) have the matrix headlights. This is something that another member could probably answer since most of my knowledge is on Model S and X vehicles.

 

[cbdream99]

I haven't heard any confirmation of widespread HW4 built out yet, so it's most likely HW3 w/o USS, have you asked Tesla?

 

[ATPMSD]

Pretty sure Tesla stopped delivering Ultrasonic Sensors in all cars. Tesla plans to use ”Vision” to fill this need. Unfortunately, Tesla stopped delivering cars with ultrasonic sensors before having a vision solution. So things like park assist do not work.

 

[aoysgelt]

My question is about X

 

[ATPMSD]

My question is about X

Tesla Vision Update: Replacing Ultrasonic Sensors with Tesla Vision | Tesla Support Other Europe

Safety is at the core of our design and engineering decisions. In 2021, we began our transition to Tesla Vision by removing radar from Model 3 and Model Y, followed by Model S and Model X in 2022. Today, in most regions around the globe, these vehicles now rely on Tesla Vision, our camera-based...

www.tesla.com

 

[aoysgelt]

Yes was aware of that. Was confused that Tesla person was bringing it up - as if new option is around the corner

 

[Radaman0_RWD]

It seems that there is no official statement on HW4 at of time of writing. Last night on EV CPO, model S and X cars with a HW4 filter showed up. To my understanding, if this is correct, the model S and X cars will have HW4 soon/already and the 3 and Y will receive it much later.

That being said, this car they called you about is likely a HW3 w/o ultrasonic sensors (same as the late 2022 Model Y cars).

Newly built cars should be the same, but there have been some reports saying Model Y cars built in Fremont (don’t know if all) have the matrix headlights. This is something that another member could probably answer since most of my knowledge is on Model S and X vehicles.

Hi...in Europe Chinese Model Y/3 all have Matrix Headlights like mine, 2023 Model Y RWD LFP

 

[ATPMSD]

Yes was aware of that. Was confused that Tesla person was bringing it up - as if new option is around the corner

My guess is Tesla has started to deliver the MX without USS and they want to ensure buyers know about the change.

 

[Richbot]

You will bump into more stuff at first, but less over time.

With ultrasonics you bump into less stuff at first, but more over time as you start to ignore the constant beeps and bongs. So many beeps. So, so many bongs.

 

[Boldminer]

It seems that there is no official statement on HW4 at of time of writing. Last night on EV CPO, model S and X cars with a HW4 filter showed up. To my understanding, if this is correct, the model S and X cars will have HW4 soon/already and the 3 and Y will receive it much later.

That being said, this car they called you about is likely a HW3 w/o ultrasonic sensors (same as the late 2022 Model Y cars).

Newly built cars should be the same, but there have been some reports saying Model Y cars built in Fremont (don’t know if all) have the matrix headlights. This is something that another member could probably answer since most of my knowledge is on Model S and X vehicles.

If this is HW3 w/o ultrasonic sensors.....Just give Tesla $250 and wait for a new Model X

 

[Boldminer]

My guess is Tesla has started to deliver the MX without USS and they want to ensure buyers know about the change.

Buyers are worried about hw4.....

 

[Npate2]

If this is HW3 w/o ultrasonic sensors.....Just give Tesla $250 and wait for a new Model X

How can one tell if it has HW4 if cameras are in same places just higher resolution? The reservation for this car was made back in I think oct. 2021 and has repeatedly got pushed back. Waiting for a HW4 is the most logical thing to do but not when you will be carless

 

[Grabthar]

Reports are now coming out (since Thur/Fri this week) that Tesla is assigning VINs for Model X with HW4 and no USS.

 

[jboy210]

Reports are now coming out (since Thur/Fri this week) that Tesla is assigning VINs for Model X with HW4 and no USS.

Doesn't HW4 have cameras in the front bumper? If so, the lack of USS is fine. But, I thought the 3 refresh was the first car to get the new cameras and HW4.

 

[Unclepaul]

Best way to know for sure would be to contact your Delivery Specialist. These car are currently in a state of flux (not unusual for Tesla).

 

[Boldminer]

Reports are now coming out (since Thur/Fri this week) that Tesla is assigning VINs for Model X with HW4 and no USS.

No one knows about hw4 for these new Vins.

 

[Npate2]

Doesn't HW4 have cameras in the front bumper? If so, the lack of USS is fine. But, I thought the 3 refresh was the first car to get the new cameras and HW4.

That’s what was rumored but I do not think that is the case. Seems like these new cars have upgraded cameras and new radar.

Delivery specialist told me the car that I am expecting next week will have HW4. I don’t think they always know what they are talking about though so will find out soon. Isn’t there something I can check via the vehicle software (that will display the HW version)?

 

[GoVols!]

I really need to stay off these forums. I am picking up our new MX next week. Should I eat the deposit and $500 transportation fee and wait for a HW.4 MX?

 

[Boldminer]

That’s what was rumored but I do not think that is the case. Seems like these new cars have upgraded cameras and new radar.

Delivery specialist told me the car that I am expecting next week will have HW4. I don’t think they always know what they are talking about though so will find out soon. Isn’t there something I can check via the vehicle software (that will display the HW version)?

No one knows . I highly suspect these car are still on hw3 but no ultra sensor