starise
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I don't think those who bought FSD are looking for a payout from a legal battle. They want the best working program they can get. Most of them are ok with the way the program works now, welcoming improvements. And TBH that program has come a long way and is very effective for long commutes on open roads. If this wasn't the case all of them would be lined up at Tesla for a full refund.
If Tesla had said there are going to be limitations between HW3 and HW4 going forward, I think that's an acceptable and expected admission. Tech never stands still. The point of contention is there were software udates to make the functions better, but now we have a major hardware update. It would be like running windows 10 and updating to windows 11 only one of your computers is too old for win 11 so it needs replaced.
I don't know where Tesla is headed here, but to charge the same price for FSD both before and after hardware upgrades doesn't seem like a good business decision. Unless there is a disclaimer in the software purchase stating there is no guarantee at time of purchase, hardware upgrades will not cause your purchase to be either less effective or obsolete as a result of the existing car, then those customers are owed every improvement those after the change recieved. They obviously can't deliver on this, but they could offer benefits or discounts to those older customers who aren't technically old customers yet because HW4 hasn't been fully implimented.
One thing I never understood was the idea of carrying FSD to another car. Why tie it to the car if the car is sold? Simply allow users to update through a new car purchase, unless they opt to give it to the new owner for some reason.
So they are in a bit of a mess with some of these decisions. If they want to keep customers they need to take care of them. Announcing HW4 right after selling 1 million cars that won't have it or removing USS isn't any way to do that, especially knowing the two systems are not cross compatible. It's like saying , " You just ordered a new car from us, congratulations, you are driving old tech already and we will have better cars soon." Thanks Tesla.
Then I have heard talk the model 2 might offer free FSD as a part of the package. If true, I'm sure that one doesn't sit well for those who payed for it.
If Tesla had said there are going to be limitations between HW3 and HW4 going forward, I think that's an acceptable and expected admission. Tech never stands still. The point of contention is there were software udates to make the functions better, but now we have a major hardware update. It would be like running windows 10 and updating to windows 11 only one of your computers is too old for win 11 so it needs replaced.
I don't know where Tesla is headed here, but to charge the same price for FSD both before and after hardware upgrades doesn't seem like a good business decision. Unless there is a disclaimer in the software purchase stating there is no guarantee at time of purchase, hardware upgrades will not cause your purchase to be either less effective or obsolete as a result of the existing car, then those customers are owed every improvement those after the change recieved. They obviously can't deliver on this, but they could offer benefits or discounts to those older customers who aren't technically old customers yet because HW4 hasn't been fully implimented.
One thing I never understood was the idea of carrying FSD to another car. Why tie it to the car if the car is sold? Simply allow users to update through a new car purchase, unless they opt to give it to the new owner for some reason.
So they are in a bit of a mess with some of these decisions. If they want to keep customers they need to take care of them. Announcing HW4 right after selling 1 million cars that won't have it or removing USS isn't any way to do that, especially knowing the two systems are not cross compatible. It's like saying , " You just ordered a new car from us, congratulations, you are driving old tech already and we will have better cars soon." Thanks Tesla.
Then I have heard talk the model 2 might offer free FSD as a part of the package. If true, I'm sure that one doesn't sit well for those who payed for it.