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I'm sorry. How is that supposed to make you a qualified electro-mechanical engineer to design electric cars?
I knew everything in my mid twenties. By thirty I knew much less.
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I'm sorry. How is that supposed to make you a qualified electro-mechanical engineer to design electric cars?
I have heard one that's getting more than boring (Not to do with the Boring Co) "Panel gap! GASP!! Freak out! OMG!!"Timmy boy should be shorting TSLA with what a colossal failure this car is going to be and buy a Model S. Haven't heard any complaints (yet) about that car!
Some quick calcs:
Say a Model 3 owner drives 16k miles a year at 4 miles a kWh and charges up the battery at 7 kwh per hour.
On average they have to connect the car 11 hours a week.
Oh dear. Wherever will they find the time ?!
Let's just say your "accomplishments" pale compared to some on this board. Heck, they're nothing compared to at least two people participating in this thread (not me).The computer part of the post is not for you, Stoon, it's between me and MXWing only. I thought of PM'ing him but posted it here.
You know we can all see what you type, right? We're not eavesdropping if we respond to a post.The computer part of the post is not for you, Stoon, it's between me and MXWing only. I thought of PM'ing him but posted it here.
Let's just say your "accomplishments" pale compared to some on this board. Heck, they're nothing compared to at least two people participating in this thread (not me).
I feel that Tesla is in effect punishing people who get the small battery by giving them only a 32 amp charger. They got the small battery, so that means they will never have a situation where they need to stop at home, charge up 50 miles, and go somewhere else very soon?
I don't want to get this subject off track by going into my IT history, but just for you MXWing....
I've had 6 years in IT support, progressing from desktop support to senior desktop support. Lots of contract assignments in different companies. I completed my CCNA Routing & Switching certification last September ( I took the 2 test ICND1 + ICND2 route), and if I ever get around to finishing it, I will have CCNA Data Center as well. I currently work as a data center tech, in what is considered a "longer term contract assignment", and our company just bought the NLyte DCIM program, and the manager has me training on that, in addition to the daily data center duties. I may eventually study for CCNP level certs, but I think I need more real world experience first.
I'm not a programmer, I'm not a Linux guru, I'm not a Sys Admin. Ever since I started doing IT work for companies, I'd talk to the network engineers and other IT staff whenever I could, and I am going towards a networking / data center IT career track.
Is that at least reasonable progress?
Agreed. For modest commutes it's far from useless.Honestly, charging off a plain 110V is MORE than enough on people's daily commutes. Average person only commutes 30 miles a day. Charge it overnight, you have even more than 30 miles. Installing an EV plug in my garage would be nice, but the circuit breakers are on the other side of the house (100ft away) and I'm getting quoted anywhere from $4000-6000 by different people in my area, all saying it would require new cabling and opening up walls and removing storage cabinets I spent a fair amount of money and time installing myself.
Tesla pwned themselves this time. By "saving money" and "cutting costs", they chose to put a weaksauce, slow, wimpy, teeny tiny little 32 amp charger in the base 3, and an ok-but-not-much-better 48 amp in the big battery 3's.
Every single 3 ever made, big battery or not, should have the full size 72 amp Model S charger, or even the old style 80 amp dual chargers.
And here is why.
HPWC sales, $550 each. There is absolutely no reason for 455,000 3 owners to buy an HPWC now, a NEMA 14-50 is enough (Ok, I know the 48 amp charger could use the HPWC a little, but there's not $550 worth of gain).
So Tesla, are you happy now? I know not everyone would have bought an HPWC for their 3, but if only TEN PERCENT did, that is 25 million in lost sales. You could have had it. You wanted to cheap out on us with pathetic chargers. Good job.
On the 2012 to 2015 Prius Plug-in, at least on our 208 volt L2 EVSEs at work, they seem to pull only ~2.1 kW from the "wall".Hmmm lessee here....onboard chargers:
Ford C-Max: 3.3KW
Mitsubishi iMIEV: 3.3KW
Toyota Prius: 3.3KW
BMW i8: 3.3KW
Chevy Volt: 3.6KW
Nissan Leaf: 6.6KW
Hyundai Ioniq: 6.6KW
Smart EV: 7.0KW
VW e-Golf: 7.2KW
BMW i3: 7.7KW
Chevy Bolt: 7.7KW
Tesla Model 3: 7.7KW
Tesla Model 3-LR: 11.5KW
Tesla Model S(new): 11.5-17.2KW
Tesla Model S(original): 10-20KW
Um.. yeah. There's not a single EV/Hybrid out there I'm aware of that beats the Model 3 charging options...except a Tesla Model S or X.
Pwnd? Hyperbole much?
Doesn't the type of onboard charger affect the charge rate at destination chargers? As I recall they are up to 80 amp. I had to use a destination charger earlier this summer and I was glad I had the 72 amp option on my MX.
Yep.A tesla wall connector can be configured for 80 amp all the way down to 12 amps. It takes a 90/100amp breaker to do 72/80amp charging so it takes a beefy site to provide that to you. Can't see 72 amp destination chargers being all that common due to some homes having only 100amp service in total.
16,000 miles in one year with my S60D, 75 mile-per-day commute. We charge with NEMA 247 V @ 29 Amps and have never had a problem reaching whatever desired state of charge we want. Heck, most of the time we only charge every other day because we also have a Leaf.
Why waste the money on the Tesla-branded HPWC?
I think you're confused about the term "destination charger". Tesla's destination charging program supplies HPWCs to destinations free of charge-- mostly hotels, also other tourist destinations such as wineries, restaurants, parks, etc. In those situations the HPWC is called a "destination charger". When a HPWC is installed at home it's just a HPWC, not a destination charger.Can't see 72 amp destination chargers being all that common due to some homes having only 100amp service in total.