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Tesla Model 3 in Australia
- Thread starter Electric_Blue
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I reckon tesla have worked out everyone on this forum and are making you all wait, just to enjoy the inflicted pain
Keeping it in perspective. 100k is nothing in tesla world, and they make 700 cars per day. Your car hasnt even occupied 1 minute. You spend longer buying your milk.
We shall see! Either way I can’t wait can August hurry up and end already!!!! I just want my Tesla !!
They may also truck them all to Tonsley as there is a big undercover area there, and two competant tesla service guys to assist with handovers.
EcoCloudIT
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Smart as long as one pays in depreciation otherwise is 5 years (or however long one keeps the car) you end up with $70k-$100k still owning on car but yet a car worth vastly less....
I think the amount finance affects the quote is minimal, with RACV the difference for me was 61.20 a year.
I did the same, although your interest rate is slightly better than mine.
I was told by one of the sales guys at Chadstone that it would be at Richmond.
Given that the hours there are 8am to 5pm, Monday to Friday, I'm very much hoping that either that's wrong, or they'll extend the hours for those who are picking up new vehicles. It's a fairly hefty way out of my way, living as I do in the eastern suburbs (and generally commuting on the train.) Not impossible if I leave work early, but... annoying.
Every week that goes by I think the same thing, although in my case its $140
and how many more times am I going to be doing this.
Hopefully future generations will look back on this strange weekly ritual
with the same bemusement reserved for outside dunnys of old
Ok if everyone is doing it, not so great if you're the only one.
1st in Line
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I think you have given yourself the answer.
As a new EV car manufacturer that is struggling to become cashflow positive, Tesla would never have the financial resources/cash flow to be able to fund research on FSD while trying to ramp up Model 3 production for customers around the world who are screaming like little spoilt brats for their shiny new cars...
While I am "dreaming" about FSD, Tesla is busy developing it, amassing data from Tesla's car fleet, with teams of people working on making FSD happen.
When I registered for my Model 3, I had no idea if it would be delivered within 2, 3 or 5 years - actually at the time, my son was leaning more towards the 5 year number than the 3 1/2 years that now seem likely. Along the way, Elon gave what were his best estimates - based on the information available to him at the time - as to how he expected production to ramp up. All the while, people complaining about panel gaps, poor paint jobs, rattling sounds, "exploding" batteries and a press that was only too happy to slap dramatic headlines on all of these issues...
Likewise, Tesla is trying to develop FSD - something no other auto manufacturer has fully mastered at this point in time and something most other manufacturers are attempting to solve by applying different technology to Tesla. So we know that many problems that Tesla encounters in developing FSD are being encountered for the first time, as it is treading new ground - Tesla is literally going, where no other car manufacturer has gone before...
Again, no one is putting a gun to your head to sign up for FSD. Anyone who does put money on the table and thinks that it will be developed according to a set time table is probably not that smart. Anyone who does not understand that Elon's "unfulfilled promises" are anything more than his best estimates - is probably not all that smart either. As to anyone who signs up for a class action due to FSD's "unfulfilled promise" on the other hand is any litigation lawyers' dream come true.
All imho
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When you registered for your model 3 you paid a modestly small fully refundable deposit knowing the wait would be long. Many more have done so for S and X. When you buy the future dream of FSD you pay up-front the full amount, and if you sell the car before it becomes a reality, too bad. FSD is nothing to do with environmental outcomes. Your deposit for a tesla car does.
1st in Line
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I understand what you are trying to say, but I beg to differ.
The NBN, though of potential long-term benefit to the nation, required a massive up-front investment, while - at least according to the PWC bean counters, autonomous vehicle use will generate a $80billion benefit per annum to the nation.
I did hear some hysterical politician screams about the government defending the weekends of tradies, which left me scratching my head like everyone else... but I have not lost all my faith in our political system [yet].
I suspect that other nations who have started mandating the phasing out of ICE vehicles have read similar reports to that prepared by PWC. They probably also realised that autonomous cars have to be EV cars and - given the savings to the national economy - to ensure that this transition will happen sooner rather than later, they have chosen to mandate the transition out of ICE cars.
If nothing else works, it is my hope that once hard data from these nations becomes available about their national cost savings from autonomous vehicle use, it will be a lay down misere for the Australian government to follow suit.
1st in Line
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WRONG
The largest part of the environmental benefit of EVs will only be fully realised once they become autonomous.
Without autonomy (i.e. cars being used fro 5% to 10% of the time and sitting idle for the rest of the time), EVs have a relatively large manufacturing emissions footprint c.f. ICE cars, but generate lower emissions from use.
Even then, over their lifetime, EVs generate lower emissions than ICE vehicles.
However, with autonomy you have one EV being utilised 80% to 90% of the time, effectively replacing 6 to 9 ICE vehicles from the roads. It is then that the true environmental benefit of EVs will be harnessed.
Whenever I pay for FSD, I am going to do so with eyes wide open, understanding all the risks associated with that investment.
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