Tesla offering insurance next month

[BerTX]

My Geico premium went up 40% over the last two years. No accidents or claims.

Or did it go up even more since the value of my car dropped at the same time? I don't love insurance companies.

 

[Cheburashka]

Is it next month yet?

 

[JulienW]

Is it next month yet?

Hard to tell since the batteries in my Elon converter are dead.

 

[xfea]

Just how long is an ELON month?
It's a ZENO's / ELON's paradox no?

 

[KSilver2000]

My Geico premium went up 40% over the last two years. No accidents or claims.

Or did it go up even more since the value of my car dropped at the same time? I don't love insurance companies.

Not just car insurance. Health insurance, homeowners insurance, pet insurance, every type of insurance that comes to mind just goes up unless you change coverage amounts. It’s just the insurance business. Tesla insurance won’t be any different in the long run once the new smell goes away. Are they going to run it as a non-profit?
Or will they cap/minimize their profits to provide a “subsidized” rate? If so, as a TSLA investor, I am 100% opposed to it.

 

[mspohr]

Not just car insurance. Health insurance, homeowners insurance, pet insurance, every type of insurance that comes to mind just goes up unless you change coverage amounts. It’s just the insurance business. Tesla insurance won’t be any different in the long run once the new smell goes away. Are they going to run it as a non-profit?
Or will they cap/minimize their profits to provide a “subsidized” rate? If so, as a TSLA investor, I am 100% opposed to it.

You really need to shop around every year for insurance. Insurance rates are very random. Companies will raise rates for existing customers just because they can. They each have secret algorithms they use to establish rates and these produce different results.
Some insurance companies are afraid of Teslas because they don't understand them. Tesla understands the cars and has some control over the repair process so should produce more accurate risk estimates. (And reliable profit)

 

[RDoc]

Is it next month yet?

Don't be silly, "next month" is like "tomorrow". You should consult the White Queen on the availability of jam.

 

[jeffro01]

Oh look, yet another Elon lie... When are people going to start taking him to task for his constant and consistent policy of lying?

Jeff

 

[mspohr]

Oh look, yet another Elon lie... When are people going to start taking him to task for his constant and consistent policy of lying?

Jeff

Elon eventually comes through on his promises. He is often overly ambitious on the timeline.
Patience, grasshopper.

 

[jeffro01]

Elon eventually comes through on his promises. He is often overly ambitious on the timeline.
Patience, grasshopper.

No. This has to stop. When you say something that's not true it's a lie. I'm sick and tired of living in a world where you can just lie without recourse about anything and everything and no one seems to care. It's completely and totally out of hand and despite the worst offender being POTUS, it doesn't excuse the behavior for anyone else.

Jeff

 

[mspohr]

No. This has to stop. When you say something that's not true it's a lie. I'm sick and tired of living in a world where you can just lie without recourse about anything and everything and no one seems to care. It's completely and totally out of hand and despite the worst offender being POTUS, it doesn't excuse the behavior for anyone else.

Jeff

Lies are about facts... things that have happened.
Predictions, promises are about the future... thinks that you want to happen but no way to know if they actually will happen...
Trump lies about everything all the time. He lies about stuff that has happened.
Has Elon lied about things that happened in the past?

 

[alcibiades]

Lies are about facts... things that have happened.
Predictions, promises are about the future... thinks that you want to happen but no way to know if they actually will happen...
Trump lies about everything all the time. He lies about stuff that has happened.
Has Elon lied about things that happened in the past?

Lies are tied to propositions.

If I say, "I'm going to give you your money tomorrow" but I have no intention of doing so, I am LYING even though tomorrow hasn't happened yet.

If I say "in a few months so-and-so will happen," but 1) I have no reason to justify my claim and 2) I want you to believe it, then I am being at best merely DUPLICITOUS.

If I say "this project is do-able," but I have not actually figured out how to do it, I am being DISHONEST.

Don't get hung up on the word "lie" -- "dishonest" covers it all.

 

[Knightshade]

Lies are tied to propositions.

If I say, "I'm going to give you your money tomorrow" but I have no intention of doing so, I am LYING even though tomorrow hasn't happened yet.

If I say "in a few months so-and-so will happen," but 1) I have no reason to justify my claim and 2) I want you to believe it, then I am being at best merely DUPLICITOUS.

If I say "this project is do-able," but I have not actually figured out how to do it, I am being DISHONEST.

Don't get hung up on the word "lie" -- "dishonest" covers it all.

It doesn't though.

Because he had every intention of doing this. And they're actively taking steps to do so.

In fact less than a month after the original post the company Tesla is working with filed in California regarding the program-

https://electrek.co/2019/05/02/details-of-teslas-new-insurance-program-start-to-leak/

Markel’s State National Insurance Company filed a document with the California Department of Insurance highlighting how they plan to front Tesla’s insurance program

That regulatory crap takes time (and Elon is f'ing terrible at estimating it) doesn't change the fact they've been taking active steps to do exactly the thing Elon said they intended to do.

 

[KSilver2000]

No. This has to stop. When you say something that's not true it's a lie. I'm sick and tired of living in a world where you can just lie without recourse about anything and everything and no one seems to care. It's completely and totally out of hand and despite the worst offender being POTUS, it doesn't excuse the behavior for anyone else.

Jeff

Lies are about facts... things that have happened.
Predictions, promises are about the future... thinks that you want to happen but no way to know if they actually will happen...
Trump lies about everything all the time. He lies about stuff that has happened.
Has Elon lied about things that happened in the past?

Lies are tied to propositions.

If I say, "I'm going to give you your money tomorrow" but I have no intention of doing so, I am LYING even though tomorrow hasn't happened yet.

If I say "in a few months so-and-so will happen," but 1) I have no reason to justify my claim and 2) I want you to believe it, then I am being at best merely DUPLICITOUS.

If I say "this project is do-able," but I have not actually figured out how to do it, I am being DISHONEST.

Don't get hung up on the word "lie" -- "dishonest" covers it all.

Can we all agree on the following definitions (summarized from well established dictionaries):

Lie - an intentional inaccurate statement meant to deceive or mislead.
*we have no concrete evidence that what he states is ever intended to deceive (although, I guess no one can be certain except for a few of the real justification behind the “420” tweet)

Untruthful - pattern of false statements, diverging from facts or reality.
*we have many documented instances of false statements in the form of wildly optimistic deadlines. Elon likes to shoot himself in the foot with these.

So, by definition, to extent of our observations, one can say Elon is untruthful, but he’s not a liar.

Case closed, hopefully.

 

[alcibiades]

Can we all agree on the following definitions (summarized from well established dictionaries):

Lie - an intentional inaccurate statement meant to deceive or mislead.
*we have no concrete evidence that what he states is ever intended to deceive (although, I guess no one can be certain except for a few of the real justification behind the “420” tweet)

Untruthful - pattern of false statements, diverging from facts or reality.
*we have many documented instances of false statements in the form of wildly optimistic deadlines. Elon likes to shoot himself in the foot with these.

So, by definition, to extent of our observations, one can say Elon is untruthful, but he’s not a liar.

Case closed, hopefully.

Aka, the Lewinsky Gambit.

 

[HankLloydRight]

Case closed, hopefully.

Are you new to the Internet?

 

[Tam]

"Next month" is now here starting with California only:

Tesla Insurance | Tesla

 

[Garlan Garner]

"Next month" is now here starting with California only:

Tesla Insurance | Tesla

Then for me the insurance isn't here.

Its there.

I'm not in California.

 

[alexdav]

I checked the quotes and they're wanting over double what I'm paying now to Progressive.

Unsure if multicar gets factored in as you only get a quote for 1 car at a time. I also don't see how you add another driver to it.

 

[hydro 481]

About the same as what I'm paying with State Farm.