Tesla Software updates - Australia

[mukaibot]

As an early adopter in adelaide, here is what I had to contend with;
- no showroom. I had to fly to melbourne and as they also had no showroom so the tesla person brought the car to my hotel. It received way more attention at crown casino than the lambo’s. I think he sold a few more whilst there.
- no public chargers at all anywhere in SA. There were no apps since ev chargers did not exist.
- the car did not come with a 240v plug in charger. I had to convince tesla to change their policy and include one.
- no service centre or technician in the state. If there was an issue, tesla would fly someone in and I would do the right thing and pick him up at the airport. Had lunch too….miss those person to person days. Even got to help him change a screen…all within my garage.
- difficulty in registering due to lack of engine, and therefore no engine number
- constant harassment, and I mean every time you stop, with curious onlookers asking what brand of car that is, and when you say Tesla they just ask “who makes a telsa”
- constant negative questions like “will it get to melbourne”. These days its ”will it cross the nullaboar in record time whilst towing a car trailer and 6 horses” (or insert your own crazy criteria)
- unique tyre size that no tyre shop carried, so I had to keep my own tyre stocks. On the plus side they were cheap as tesla sold them to owners at cost.
- spending $160k (i got the cheap version) on the sole tesla model (there were two variants of model s available) not knowing if the company would survive or whether I’d end up with an unservicable pile of metal. Back then tesla was on the edge of bankrupcy.
- convincing tesla to install a few destination chargers in adelaide/sa so that we had charging that was moderatly quick...and convincing the building owners that it was a good idea.

All of this was a blast and its become less fun as tesla became more structured and corporate, eventually dispensing with the deep person to person contact and resultant friendships.

So great that you have taken the ev plunge and you have your challenges, but as you can see those challenges were next level 10 years ago when tesla entered australia AND decided to sell outside of sydney.

Hahaha that's not early adopter, that's beta tester! .

Yup, it's definitely better now than it was, and will continue to improve year on year!

 

[meloccom]

As an early adopter in adelaide, here is what I had to contend with;
- no showroom. I had to fly to melbourne and as they also had no showroom so the tesla person brought the car to my hotel. It received way more attention at crown casino than the lambo’s. I think he sold a few more whilst there.
- no public chargers at all anywhere in SA. There were no apps since ev chargers did not exist.
- the car did not come with a 240v plug in charger. I had to convince tesla to change their policy and include one.
- no service centre or technician in the state. If there was an issue, tesla would fly someone in and I would do the right thing and pick him up at the airport. Had lunch too….miss those person to person days. Even got to help him change a screen…all within my garage.
- difficulty in registering due to lack of engine, and therefore no engine number
- constant harassment, and I mean every time you stop, with curious onlookers asking what brand of car that is, and when you say Tesla they just ask “who makes a telsa”
- constant negative questions like “will it get to melbourne”. These days its ”will it cross the nullaboar in record time whilst towing a car trailer and 6 horses” (or insert your own crazy criteria)
- unique tyre size that no tyre shop carried, so I had to keep my own tyre stocks. On the plus side they were cheap as tesla sold them to owners at cost.
- spending $160k (i got the cheap version) on the sole tesla model (there were two variants of model s available) not knowing if the company would survive or whether I’d end up with an unservicable pile of metal. Back then tesla was on the edge of bankrupcy.
- convincing tesla to install a few destination chargers in adelaide/sa so that we had charging that was moderatly quick...and convincing the building owners that it was a good idea.

All of this was a blast and its become less fun as tesla became more structured and corporate, eventually dispensing with the deep person to person contact and resultant friendships.

So great that you have taken the ev plunge and you have your challenges, but as you can see those challenges were next level 10 years ago when tesla entered australia AND decided to sell outside of sydney.

My favourite experience around that time was shopping at Harris Farm at Bowral, in early 2015 when my car was weeks old. A mature gentleman approached me and demanded to know what sort of car I owned. Almost accusingly he asked, “I’m a car enthusiast and don’t know what sort of car that is!” Suggesting that this was my fault.
Then we started with the familiar
Me “It’s a Tesla Model S”
Angry man “Who makes a Tesla”
Me “Tesla makes Teslas”
AM “But who owns Tesla”
Me “Tesla is a Silicon Valley startup that makes electric cars”
AM “AN ELECTRIC CAR!” “don’t you mean a hybrid?”
Me “No fully battery electric, no engine no petrol”
etcetera etcetera.

 

[EcoCloudIT]

As an early adopter in adelaide, here is what I had to contend with;
- no showroom. I had to fly to melbourne and as they also had no showroom so the tesla person brought the car to my hotel. It received way more attention at crown casino than the lambo’s. I think he sold a few more whilst there.
- no public chargers at all anywhere in SA. There were no apps since ev chargers did not exist.
- the car did not come with a 240v plug in charger. I had to convince tesla to change their policy and include one.
- no service centre or technician in the state. If there was an issue, tesla would fly someone in and I would do the right thing and pick him up at the airport. Had lunch too….miss those person to person days. Even got to help him change a screen…all within my garage.
- difficulty in registering due to lack of engine, and therefore no engine number
- constant harassment, and I mean every time you stop, with curious onlookers asking what brand of car that is, and when you say Tesla they just ask “who makes a telsa”
- constant negative questions like “will it get to melbourne”. These days its ”will it cross the nullaboar in record time whilst towing a car trailer and 6 horses” (or insert your own crazy criteria)
- unique tyre size that no tyre shop carried, so I had to keep my own tyre stocks. On the plus side they were cheap as tesla sold them to owners at cost.
- spending $160k (i got the cheap version) on the sole tesla model (there were two variants of model s available) not knowing if the company would survive or whether I’d end up with an unservicable pile of metal. Back then tesla was on the edge of bankrupcy.
- convincing tesla to install a few destination chargers in adelaide/sa so that we had charging that was moderatly quick...and convincing the building owners that it was a good idea.

All of this was a blast and its become less fun as tesla became more structured and corporate, eventually dispensing with the deep person to person contact and resultant friendships.

So great that you have taken the ev plunge and you have your challenges, but as you can see those challenges were next level 10 years ago when tesla entered australia AND decided to sell outside of sydney.

Ahhh, I remember those days...

 

[EcoCloudIT]

My favourite experience around that time was shopping at Harris Farm at Bowral, in early 2015 when my car was weeks old. A mature gentleman approached me and demanded to know what sort of car I owned. Almost accusingly he asked, “I’m a car enthusiast and don’t know what sort of car that is!” Suggesting that this was my fault.
Then we started with the familiar
Me “It’s a Tesla Model S”
Angry man “Who makes a Tesla”
Me “Tesla makes Teslas”
AM “But who owns Tesla”
Me “Tesla is a Silicon Valley startup that makes electric cars”
AM “AN ELECTRIC CAR!” “don’t you mean a hybrid?”
Me “No fully battery electric, no engine no petrol”
etcetera etcetera.

Yep...and like "but it has an engine somewhere just in case, right?"

Funny/fun days...

 

[Candleflame]

My favourite experience around that time was shopping at Harris Farm at Bowral, in early 2015 when my car was weeks old. A mature gentleman approached me and demanded to know what sort of car I owned. Almost accusingly he asked, “I’m a car enthusiast and don’t know what sort of car that is!” Suggesting that this was my fault.
Then we started with the familiar
Me “It’s a Tesla Model S”
Angry man “Who makes a Tesla”
Me “Tesla makes Teslas”
AM “But who owns Tesla”
Me “Tesla is a Silicon Valley startup that makes electric cars”
AM “AN ELECTRIC CAR!” “don’t you mean a hybrid?”
Me “No fully battery electric, no engine no petrol”
etcetera etcetera.

Haha this reminds me charging in Marlborough in early 2020 (so thats actually relatively recent):

"oh interesting. Electic car... How much range does it get?"
" depends how fast you drive. At 120-130ish maybe 400km. If you stick to 100 450-480ish"
"cool. and when you run on petrol?"
"its an electric car it doesnt have an engine..."
"sure but if you WERE to put petrol into it. What would the range be on petrol"
"there is no fuel tank because it doesnt have an engine... so i can only run on electric power"
" ok, so if you put petrol in it and it gets converted to electricity, how much range do you then get on petrol only"
me realizing this isnt going nowhere.

 

[ZeeDoktor]

The response in this case is "the amount of energy the Tesla uses to drive 100km is about the same as the energy in 1.5 litres of petrol"

 

[JonDarian]

The response in this case is "the amount of energy the Tesla uses to drive 100km is about the same as the energy in 1.5 litres of petrol"

So....how many shovel-fulls of coal do I need to get to Mackay?

 

[paulp]

So....how many shovel-fulls of coal do I need to get to Mackay?

Probably a lot more than the solar power I need to get to the Hornsdale Power Reserve

 

[SPadival]

It's pretty simple: when using non Tesla superchargers, simply tap the "remove charging stops" line in the navigation page. That'll take care of it.

Also, if you want to charge at a particular Tesla supercharger, then you can add it manually as a stop. Then it won't be removed when you "remove charging stops" and nav will still use it as a charging stop (with estimated charging time, % etc)

 

[M3Marvin]

Installed 2023.32.7 this afternoon. Went for a bit of a drive and thought that the prompts to touch the wheel on autopilot were even longer a few times. close to a minute by just counting to 60 as a measure.

what it does do is allow 10/10A charging on a UMC charger when connected to a standard wall socket, up from 8A.

I have 10 as an option for a long time. It defaults to 8 and there is/was a dropdown to choose 10. I get 16km/hour at 10A

 

[ZeeDoktor]

So....how many shovel-fulls of coal do I need to get to Mackay?

Depends on the size of the shovel.

In SI units, approximately 3 kg of coal per 100 km. Assuming there was a coal fired engine that had the same efficiency as a BEV propulsion system....

 

[Stromi]

2023.32.6 Autopilot speed settings nerfed / borked / bugged?
See this thread 2023.32.6 autopilot speed limit change?

RANT!

Changes in 2023.32.6 Autopilot speed settings have reduced Autopilot functionality to a choice between dangerous versus useless.
The two Set Speed settings (Speed Limit / Current Speed) no longer behave safely!

Set Speed = Speed Limit is THE CRAZIEST UNSAFEST SETTING that borks low speed driving.

Set Speed (i)​

[ Speed Limit ] [ Current Speed ]​

Offset (i)​

[ Fixed ] [Percentage ]​

[-] +km/h [+]​

The car accelerates to the speed limit (+/- offset) when TACC engaged.
If you are in a 40kph school zone and you want cruise control on, to keep all attention on any pedestrians without glancing at speed and the set speed is 60kph, because zone isnt in the map database, when you engage TACC the car will accelerate to 60kph +/- offset, so crazy right scroll wheel adjusting to get down to 40kph all the while scrolling and looking at screen speed, not at road. UNSAFE!

So just Set Speed to Current Speed so TACC doesn't speed up?
Nope that now borks Auto Steering as Autopilot refuses to go faster than the posted speed limit
because the Offset setting is disabled (Offset set to zero)

Set Speed = Current Speed is THE NERFED USELESS SETTING that borks highway driving.

Set Speed (i)​

[ Speed Limit ] [ Current Speed ]​

Offset (i) DISABLED!!!!!!​

[ Fixed ] [Percentage ]​

[-] 0km/h [+] IS RESET TO ZERO!!​

Previous behaviour before 2023.32.6 :

one right stalk down for TACC - current speed kept, did not accelerate.​

option long right stalk down to accelerate to posted speed limit +/- offset.​

second right stalk down for Auto Steer - scroll wheel allow set speed to speed limit +/- offset.​

option long right stalk down to accelerate to posted speed limit +/- offset.​

​

My totally nasty work around is to Set Speed to Current Speed for safe low speed behaviour of TACC and when on open road engage Auto Steer and immediately press CAR icon, select Autopilot, select Set Speed to Speed Limit, press the [+] button to reach my offset. Nastier yet when I am entering a low speed zone with traffic is to again press CAR icon, select Autopilot, select Set Speed to Current Speed for low speed TACC.

THE FIX IS EASY TESLA, JUST REVERSE THIS REGRESSION TO ENABLE THE OFFSET CONTROLS ON SET SPEED = CURRENT SPEED

I have found a work around for the annoying behavior of Set Speed = Speed Limit accelerating to the speed limit (+/- offset).

The key is to double tap the Current Speed icon immediately after entering cruise control (after right stalk quick press down).

 

[Hairyman]

So....how many shovel-fulls of coal do I need to get to Mackay?

Depends if you are using a Spear & Jackson #3 or Cyclone square mouth shovel

 

[Hairyman]

I have found a work around for the annoying behavior of Set Speed = Speed Limit accelerating to the speed limit (+/- offset).

The key is to double tap the Current Speed icon immediately after entering cruise control (after right stalk quick press down).

You can change the behaviour in the autopilot menu too. From speed limit to current speed. Saved me a lot of misery

 

[Midnight Man]

I have found a work around for the annoying behavior of Set Speed = Speed Limit accelerating to the speed limit (+/- offset).

The key is to double tap the Current Speed icon immediately after entering cruise control (after right stalk quick press down).

I always thought a single tap down is set cruise control (and in settings, you decide whether that is speed limit, or current speed).

A long single down tap will set cruise control to the current speed limit.

Have tested the above this afternoon, works a treat.

 

[JonDarian]

I always thought a single tap down is set cruise control (and in settings, you decide whether that is speed limit, or current speed).

A long single down tap will set cruise control to the current speed limit.

Have tested the above this afternoon, works a treat.

That is true, but it leaves you limited to the posted speed limit (without a % offset) if you use Autosteer.

 

[NeilA]

That is true, but it leaves you limited to the posted speed limit (without a % offset) if you use Autosteer.

Surely not if you choose 'current speed?

 

[Hairyman]

Surely not if you choose 'current speed?

You are correct. It is much easier to manage given that Tesla speed limit mapping has frequent errors

 

[NeilA]

You are correct. It is much easier to manage given that Tesla speed limit mapping has frequent errors

It is certainly all I have used since getting the car. Auto speed sign recognition is a nice idea, but we are unlikely to see that in a reliable form until the autopilot code is significantly updated in existing cars (supposedly happening when FSD comes out of beta).
Personally I find the current speed setting works very well for me.

 

[cafz]

That is true, but it leaves you limited to the posted speed limit (without a % offset) if you use Autosteer.

Only on non-divided-roads I think. I was certainly able to use Autosteer at 113km/h indicated for all the parts of the Hume Freeway I tried.