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Tesla Supercharger network
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dennis
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That's spectacular news about the increased SpC network throughout the European market. Portugal-to-Poland, Finland-to-Firenze, Ireland to Illyria. (and beyond, but my alliteration fails).
I wonder how the EU's intertied system of regulatory bailiwicks compares to what occurs in the US? Only a heinously dedicated policy+local jurisdictional+familiarity-with-bureaucratese wonk could know for sure - and surely there aren't any of those on this forum, are there? Or even within the employment pool at TMC?
Perhaps the best they can hope for in the US is to shame Jurisdiction C with the welcome and approval and success they have received in Jurisdictions A and B. That ought to work...in some locations.
I wonder how the EU's intertied system of regulatory bailiwicks compares to what occurs in the US? Only a heinously dedicated policy+local jurisdictional+familiarity-with-bureaucratese wonk could know for sure - and surely there aren't any of those on this forum, are there? Or even within the employment pool at TMC?
Perhaps the best they can hope for in the US is to shame Jurisdiction C with the welcome and approval and success they have received in Jurisdictions A and B. That ought to work...in some locations.
Agree, but it was definately SC, as separate transformer and utility feed would be required for the install.
Tesla have already got a taste of this in France, Belgium and Uk. Small temporary 2 stands chargers on a pallet are the norm in these countries. I guess local regulations are to blame. I think Tesla planners are slowly learning to handle it.
This was once true for Canada, but now there are only 14 dots there. A few months ago, 3 dots were trimmed from Ontario.
Another data point: heard from an engineer who works on the supercharger network out in the field that there are plans for a major surge of activity towards the end of the year in building out more U.S. superchargers.
My interpretation, which is based on pure speculation, is that maybe Tesla is trying to keep its margins respectable in Q3, and holding off until Q4 for a big splurge of activity to construct new supercharger sites. I also assume that this tidbit of info, if true, means they probably won't make their 2014 map goals, and that some/many of the long-awaited sites (me, I'm waiting for Albuquerque/Santa Fe!) will slip into 2015. As we all probably have been expecting for months... sigh
My interpretation, which is based on pure speculation, is that maybe Tesla is trying to keep its margins respectable in Q3, and holding off until Q4 for a big splurge of activity to construct new supercharger sites. I also assume that this tidbit of info, if true, means they probably won't make their 2014 map goals, and that some/many of the long-awaited sites (me, I'm waiting for Albuquerque/Santa Fe!) will slip into 2015. As we all probably have been expecting for months... sigh
Benz
Active Member
They could decide to put them back on the map in 2015/2016. Higher sales figures will certainly have a positive effect, I think.
To meet the 2014 map goal of 213 SuperChargers in North America, they will need to light up 105 new SCs in the next 18 weeks. Or 5.8 a week. Since Feb 22, they have pretty steadily averaged 1.23 a week. I think getting to 140 is a lot more likely than 213 by Dec 31.
Tesla lit up 37 new Super Chargers in December 2013 and January 2014. I could see 80 to 100 additional Super Chargers in the US before January 1, 2015:
Tesla Supercharger network - Page 388
Toronto, ON and Truckee, CA are both live! Both on the map as well.
Toronto Supercharger | Tesla Motors
Truckee Supercharger | Tesla Motors
Toronto Supercharger | Tesla Motors
Truckee Supercharger | Tesla Motors
Wow I just checked the SC map a few hours ago and the Truckee SC was not shown on the "Open Now" map, but now it is. And I see Toronto as well. Excellent! I think we are going to see a lot more North American SCs opening in the next few months.
I'm glad you are optimistic but history isn't on your side. If they do an end of year push like last year, they might get to 160. In the 4 months ending on Jan 30, 2014, they put in 50 SCs. That was the most productive period for them. Less than half of what they need to make the 2014 map. One could argue they are better at it this time around but we will need to start seeing a major uptick this week to even get close to 213. Also, in early Fall 2013, they were at about double the rate that they are now.
I find it rather humorous that this time last year there were almost identical discussions. (100 was the number and it took another 6 months to get there).
fengshui
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Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
Very nice sharp pics! Would be great to get more of those individual Supercharger 24 hour summaries.
Benz
Active Member
I have said this before:
Expect many new Supercharger stations to go live in the US and in Canada in Q4 2014 and in Q1 2015. On average 15 new live Supercharger stations per month (or inbetween 10 and 20 per month).
Even the top 10 are interesting. #10 is used 25% as much as #1 (894/3496). Although by looking at the list (with the blue bars underneath the locations) you wouldn't think so. The bars make it seem way more lopsided.
Odd timing of the picture too. Has #109 in NA. Yesterday we went from 108 to 110 with Toronto and Truckee. Looks like Truckee is on the map but not Toronto. Wonder how long that gap was.
Good observation. However, I would imagine Fremont will always have the most energy usage because (for the foreseeable future) it has the largest concentration of Teslas in the immediate area. Also, the top ten is for the last 24 hours. I'm interested to see if that list fluctuates from week-to-week, month-to-month, quarter-to-quarter, etc.
Benz
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I'm sure it fluctuates quite a bit. For example, in the winter the SCs in Norway are likely used less because there could be significantly less long distance driving in the winter compared to the summer.
SC use in California in urban areas like Fremont and Hawthorne probably doesn't vary much by season since the climate is mild.
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