Sparky4life
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Is this the same as saying that it won’t go up quickly unless it goes up a little first?
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Board recommended 1-5 FOR 6-13 AGAINSTCan someone here simply tell me - spoon feed - how I should vote in each of those 13 items? I would prefer to do 'Musk party line' voting.
Thanks
If you are voting via ProxyVote, you can just click the "submit" button without selecting anything and it will ask if you want to vote using the board's recommendation.Can someone here simply tell me - spoon feed - how I should vote in each of those 13 items? I would prefer to do 'Musk party line' voting.
Thanks
Interesting, odd that it's recorded as 'bought' but that's likely just semantics. Looks like it was handled correctly. Zero price as to not create a taxable event in certain markets and I assume your cost basis was divided exactly by five.I just looked in my E*TRADE transaction history and on 8/31/2020 it shows that I "bought" 4x the number of shares I held for $0. (With a description of "TESLA INC COMMON STOCK STK SPLIT ON <x> SHS REC 08/21/20 PAY 08/28/20" where "<x>" was the number of shares I held.)
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The only one I disagreed with the Board was the supermajority one. It seemed to me that if some Board members got mad at Elon, there could be a Steve Jobs situation. It's unlikely that a supermajority of board members would be found, but a simple majority is much easier.Board recommended 1-5 FOR 6-13 AGAINST
Thank you. That was super easyIf you are voting via ProxyVote, you can just click the "submit" button without selecting anything and it will ask if you want to vote using the board's recommendation.
Can someone here simply tell me - spoon feed - how I should vote in each of those 13 items? I would prefer to do 'Musk party line' voting.
Thanks
Except it doesn’t have to do with how board members vote, but how the voting power of outstanding shares and not requiring shareholder votes to require super majority.The only one I disagreed with the Board was the supermajority one. It seemed to me that if some Board members got mad at Elon, there could be a Steve Jobs situation. It's unlikely that a supermajority of board members would be found, but a simple majority is much easier.
We are submitting to our stockholders a vote to adopt at the 2022 Annual Meeting each of the following:
• The inclusion of certain provisions in the proposed Amended Certificate to eliminate the current requirements that certain categories of changes to our certificate of incorporation be approved by the affirmative vote of at least 66 2/3% of the total voting power of all outstanding shares of Tesla common stock (the “Supermajority Amendment”); and
• An amendment and restatement (the “Amended Bylaws”) of our current bylaws to eliminate the current requirements therein that certain categories of changes to our bylaws be approved by the affirmative vote of at least 66 2/3% of the total voting power of all outstanding shares of Tesla common stock.
Mine shows the same. The interesting thing is the description:I just looked in my E*TRADE transaction history and on 8/31/2020 it shows that I "bought" 4x the number of shares I held for $0. (With a description of "TESLA INC COMMON STOCK STK SPLIT ON <x> SHS REC 08/21/20 PAY 08/28/20" where "<x>" was the number of shares I held.)
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It's just a delay of a decision.
Haven't LFP patents expired? So why wouldn't Samsung/LG Chemical (Or Tesla) jump on this to produce LFP in the US? IMHO just noise
Tesla shouldn't be affected. They import those LFP cells from China.
Ford, who was planning for future models, are likely to be more affected if any cancelling would occur.
That happened to me when I added a second account. Had to remove the accounts and then re-enter them, then it counted all my shares.Say only has 10% of my shares listed even though I have all my accounts setup. For whatever reason the shares in my TD isn't showing up. Schwab share count in Say looks correct. So odd.
Tesla are foreign shares. They are widely held in many countries outside USA and retail holds them in greater proportion than many other foreign stocks (shares). I'd expect many European and other countries to be similarly organised to UK's system ie no way to vote. I have no idea if this adds up to enough shares to affect Tesla voting. I suspect it might just be relevant in some votes where a supermajority or absolute majority is needed.What is the problem with our friends in the UK becoming real TSLA shareholders instead of just owning fake (representational) shares created by a holding company? Real shareholders have a legal right to vote. It sounds like most (all?) of you have the UK equivalent of an ADR (American Depository Receipt). I avoid ADR's because they do not track the returns of the underlying security well over time. That's bad for long-term returns.
To take the US as an example, the electronic settlement system in the US is called DTC and if a shareholder holds electronic stock in the US they will hold their securities electronically in DTC. In reality, they will hold the securities via a custodian, so the custodian's nominee details will appear on the company's register
I like your style, but I don't think at that point even the full Saudi fund + VW + whatever Elon & friends can chip in would be enough to buy up all the shares to take the company private...If they do a 10:1 split first, I’ll permit them to go private at $420.
I like your style, but I don't think at that point even the full Saudi fund + VW + whatever Elon & friends can chip in would be enough to buy up all the shares to take the company public...
Tesla are foreign shares. They are widely held in many countries outside USA and retail holds them in greater proportion than many other foreign stocks (shares). I'd expect many European and other countries to be similarly organised to UK's system ie no way to vote.
And of mistakes, I’ve made a few….. but none of them so expensive as saying no to buying Tesla at $420… FFS. Imagine making a half a trillion dollar mistake. Epic fail.I like your style, but I don't think at that point even the full Saudi fund + VW + whatever Elon & friends can chip in would be enough to buy up all the shares to take the company public...
Actually wrong twice. I did, I hope, say that pouch cells were much harder to use than are less unstable forms. I noted the A/c charge controller because that single part allegedly caused numerous Porsche fires. In that case there has not been an integrated BMS.It sounds like you are saying Elon was just blowing smoke up our bums when he said Tesla strongly recommends against the use of pouch cell (due to fire danger).
It also sounds like you are under the mistaken impression that the A/C charge controller is not part of the BMS.
just search this thread around august 2020 there were issues for some shareholders where the dividend shares did not show up in their accounts .. i did not have any issues myself .. but i seem to remember a lot of chatter about thisThanks for the response.
Just a small correction here. The company distributes the additional shares via their transfer agent (e.g. computershare) who then provides them to the DTC to distribute. The DTC shouldn't be creating anything.
Anyone lending the stock at the time of a stock split distributed by dividend could be concerned if their shares have been lent out by lender (repeatedly) that they may not receive the full amount of shares in return, if all available shares have already been distributed.
TSLA, GOOG, AMD have all issued stock splits distributed by share dividends, but I can't see any other shareholder groups querying whether they were distributed correctly so maybe it hasn't been an issue previously. It still may not be, but the BaFin (German SEC) announced today that the German brokerages had been instructed incorrectly to issue a stock split and not a stock split distributed by dividend. This has resulted in many shareholders receiving their dividend, having it taken away again, then replaced, only to be told it's still not correctly issued and to expect further disruption.
Again, appreciative of any comments from TSLA shareholders that were holders during the last split.
Interactive Brokers (IBKR) allows voting on US securities from the UK and Europe. Don't believe it uses CREST although many UK based brokers do.I'd expect many European and other countries to be similarly organised to UK's system ie no way to vote.
Clearly I agree with you. The smart OEMs to which I refer, and mentioned in recent points, were all Chinese. Tesla does not have all Chinese OEMs by any portion of their anatomy. Lest anybody miss my point Gigacasting is coming to Chinese OEMs. Anyway everyone conveniently ignores that Gigacasting itself originated with a Chinese owned firm IDRA together with their parent LK.Well, it was pointed out to you that no OEMs other than Tesla actually have mega presses right now nor in production, but I didn’t say you were quoting lies. I said, you lost me at very smart OEMs. That’s an oxymoron in EV context, imo. There is nothing very smart about GM or Ford or BMW or Audi or except their ability to lie to the public via advertising, marketing, promotional material or announcements. It’s all one big, fat pile of . It’s been a big, fat pile of for over a decade. I’m wagering it’ll remain a big, fat pile of for the next decade. Tesla has them by the mouse nuts and is squeezing them tighter by the hour.