The precise quote (obviously in translation) was "The 18650 and 2170 cells currently are the best in the business, and they are used by Tesla." The video is on YouTube.
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Seems like usually released it’s Fridays around noon? This is really getting personal.
Seems like usually released it’s Fridays around noon? This is really getting personal.
Dan Detweiler
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DurandalAI
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You can always tell when it is a hit piece when it is a couple of hours before market close on a Friday, in an attempt for shorts to cover. It’s so obvious, it’s a wonder that anyone actually falls for it. I’m confident by this point that all the negative news media is a coordinated effort for institutional buyers to load up on Tesla cheap, scare weak retail buyers, and then profit. It’s just too coordinated and timed at this point.
So 4 fires since 2014. We knew about the April, 2018 one, previous ones were January, 2016 or older.
Does anybody remember when they moved to the new paint shop? I'm pretty sure it was after January, 2016, so were the three previous fires in the old paint shop and have no relevance to the current setup?
Esme Es Mejor
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It’s always been personal. But I think it’s beginning to get ineffective. Journalism, like all things, is subject to the laws of economics— in this case, diminishing marginal utility. The more often readers see sensationalist doomsday articles from CNBC, the less they are affected by them. Two months ago, an article like this would have pushed the SP down $5-10. Today, it looks like only $2-3 down.
Saw headline, figured it was a hit piece. Saw author, knew it was a hit piece.
This is some hedge funds' standard operation. They use this tactic to affect the weekly option price. Sometimes they prepare several hit pieces, they even pre-determine the exact time to air which piece at which channel. CNBC is one of their favorite. A few years ago I watched a video that explained how exactly they do this.
Seems to me they prepared this piece a while ago. They can't just write something up last night and get Tesla's comment this morning. They waited until the noon of Friday to air it. Also they hope to hit it below the 50 day moving average so they can get some help from programmed trading. Just my guess. Also it's the mid Bollinger band...
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Myopic view by these bloggers IMO. These articles hurts short term and makes Tesla and EM even more determined therefore building unintentional moat and hardens Tesla fans.
18650 is only a can form factor. Tesla has made changes to the internal chemistry over the years (some short lived, like the 90kWh).
bdy0627
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It really is at a point where Tesla "news" seems so contrived it's comical. Before you even read the article, you know who will have written it, and who published it. The fact that this is THE top story at CNBC right now is bizarre to say the least.
For me the news is that it doesn't seem to have material impact in the SP as in the past. Unless the SP was meant to climb close to $300 today, which I doubt; as the news about the TM3 cost and 6,250 units sold in US in May have been almost ignored in mainstream media.
Let's see which position it gets in the top USA Car Sales for May. I bet it will be in the Top 20 for the first time, although lower than estimated in this article one month ago:
Tesla Model 3 = #21 Best Selling Car In USA. #15 In May? #6 In June Or July? | CleanTechnica
They say purchases are made on emotion right? Well I’m getting so angry by all these hit pieces, it’s making me want to justify ordering a dual motor M3 rather than wait for SR version. It would be a stretch financially but I want to support the company. Already all in on stock.
I remembered that at some point, a long time ago, Tesla had specifically said that they had their own proprietary battery chemistry manufactured by Panasonic. I tracked it down to a presentation from 2011! (by putting "site:ir.tesla.com proprietary chemistry" into Google). The powerpoint is attached below... it was so much fun to look at it. But anyway it confirms:
jhm
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One could say, Musk believes in wakes, not moats.
Adam Jonas at Morgan Stanley is a whackjob. This number is clearly too high for a business which doesn't exist yet. He was also attributing $0 to Tesla Energy, which is clearly a bit too low for a buisness which built the Big Battery in South Australia.
Again with her unnamed sources who I assume to be UAW inspired. This type of incident happens every day at factories including other car factories. Yet when it happens at Tesla it suits this reporter's agenda. It's rather inconsequential, and as I would have expected apparently not affecting the share price. I would comment in her Twitter account, but she has blocked me from reading or replying there. I've been told she tweeted that she had blocked me due to an unwelcome direct message. I have never communicated with anyone by direct message on Twitter. In any event, others at TMC may want to reply to her on Twitter.
Yeah, that's well documented: everyone thinks they're a good driver, whether they're good or terrible. I'm an exception. I actually used to be one of the best drivers on the road, as judged by third parties... then I got PTSD treatment and I'm a much worse driver. :-( I can tell. So there's my tip: severe PTSD makes you a better driver. (Sigh.)
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