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[UK] ‘Highland’ order discussion
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It’s a bit pointless comparing an M3 to an iX. They are completely different classes of car. We know that Tesla are strong on performance and efficiency, but they cannot even begin to compete in terms of comfort and refinement. “Premium” for Tesla equates to “bog standard” for the quality German marques.
And how refreshing that BMW, Audi and Mercedes still offer real dead cow for the interior. Infinitely better than this awful vegan crap that feels like no genuine leather I’ve ever seen and just makes the interior of a Tesla seem cheap. Which it is.
We need to wait for the cars to start arriving but it appears as you say, fabric on RWD and alcentara on LR. You would think that the cost to move to the white interior should be more expensive for the RWD, given that it starts with cheaper materials but it's the same price.
I think you didn’t get my point. The German marques still think they have figured out the EV market. Just for comparison in those olden days, not long ago, German marques bog standard 3 series cost around 27000 and if you go for some basic Ford mondeo it costs around 20000. The 3 series was considered posh compared to fords and it was aspirational. The reason was the 3 series matched everything when compared to a Ford - in terms of efficiency and mileage and was more luxurious. Also, it wasn’t giving a paltry 20mpg like an Alfa and unreliable. And that is how BMW or the other German car makers beat the rest of the industry and became class leading.
If something gives 10-20mpg and costs 125000 (top spec) it better be like a Bentley and drive like a porsche. I don’t think iX is anywhere close to a Bentley bentaga or something in that category. And by the way I am not going to be fooled by some real dead cow. And this is 2023 and people have different priorities and not everyone on a forum or car buying mass wants acres and acres of dead cow leather in their cars. Btw I am VEGAN if @yessuz has any more doubts.
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Absolutely true. I respect other people’s life style choices. However I’m not vegan or even vegetarian - in fact I would describe myself as a dedicated carcass cruncher and love my delicious meat. Even in 2023 I want the option of real dead cow.
Ha, old jokes are old jokes
)My main issue with "vegan leather" is that is just posh name of PVC leather, which in tesla's cause shedloads of squeaks and rattles, when two of such panels/pats rub each other. It is extremely annoying.
As for the life choices, whatever fills your tummy, mate
According to the UN 98% of leather is produced from animals that have been slaughtered for meat consumption. If the hides aren’t used for leather they are sent to landfill. In a real sense leather is a byproduct of the meat industry. The hides are already there so they might as well be used to make leather.
And yes, I also long for a leather interior. There really isn’t anything quite like it. And why do Tesla (and others) describe their cheap vegan crap as “leather”? Leather is, by definition, an animal product.
Probably to try and fool people into thinking it’s of comparable quality to real leather. Which, of course, it isn’t. “Cheap vegan crap” seems to me to be a pretty accurate description.
And some of us hate all types of leather and would much prefer a fabric seat.
Zilla91
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Give me alcantara over leather or fake leather any day. More comfortable and looks sporty
That’s a good spot, think RWD is definitely fabric and and LR a suade effect?
Couple of screenshots from YouTube reviews, first one is a LR, 2nd photo a RWD
MrBadger
Badger out
Which alas, unlike other car manufacturers, you get very little of with Tesla other than to simply walk away.
LiamPope
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And wears horribly. That's why pretty much no mainstream manufacturer would ever put it on the whole seats, or steering wheel. That's why your 'Alcantara sport seats' are almost always half-leather with alcantara only on the cushions, leather on the bolsters.
Leytonstone
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Leather's ideal if you have kids because you can wipe it clean, but the belief that cheap unyielding automotive vinyl is the epicure's choice because it looks a bit like leather is the work of PR departments. The weird stuff in my car is as horrible as it is durable. Cloth all the way.
Tesla’s goal has always been volume and to reduce prices. They were only playing at that level because battery costs force those prices. Over time they’ve dropped and of course Tesla has continued to pull cost out of the car where they can.
Foreign language review (with Subtitles) but a RHD model, at least we can see wheel on the proper side!, Sorry if posted before, couldn’t see it
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