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They do say ākill the oldāuns off firstāā¦The seniors are the guinea pigs again. Wonāt someone stop that rampaging Musk??
Yes, definitely. A few years ago a software update was something to look forward to and usually included a significant upgrade. Now updates are coming think and fast, some are so bad they are swiftly withdrawn and some seem just to correct bugs in the previous very recent update. Frankly I find the frequency of updates, with no discernible benefit, to be deeply irritating.Does anyone else feel that this latest spate of updates suggests even more chaos amongst the dofwewr developers and less internal quality control of their work than usual?
Or that phantom braking is at last fixedWhat does amuse me, though, is that after nearly every update someone will claim the utterly crap auto wipers are fixed. They never are.
It's not really born out by the numbers though, there were significantly fewer updates in 2023 than 2020, so updates are now really coming slower than before.Yes, definitely. A few years ago a software update was something to look forward to and usually included a significant upgrade. Now updates are coming think and fast, some are so bad they are swiftly withdrawn and some seem just to correct bugs in the previous very recent update. Frankly I find the frequency of updates, with no discernible benefit, to be deeply irritating.
What does amuse me, though, is that after nearly every update someone will claim the utterly crap auto wipers are fixed. They never are.
2020 | 30 |
2021 | 26 |
2022 | 28 |
2023 | 21 |
Thatās a reminder that we should never let reality get in the way of a good story!It's not really born out by the numbers though, there were significantly fewer updates in 2023 than 2020, so updates are now really coming slower than before.
2020 302021 262022 282023 21
It's always needed about 5 attempts before they move onto the next update.
Well maybe you might actually set down your highway code book and try driving on actual roads then? A lot of the time, you won't see these signs at all approaching a roundabout, but just a regular road sign with a graphic showing London left, town centre straight on, business park to the right for example. So again, what defines a mini roundabout from a regular roundabout? Its still not clear. Advising people not to indicate at a mini roundabouts just isn't sound advice IMO. Indicating at all roundabouts is just a better approach, and I find it hard to consider the other side of that argument TBH.You might want to have a recap on roadsigns. Roundabouts and mini roundabouts are quite well defined.
Mini roundabout:
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āRegularā roundabout:
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And a reminder that no update has fixed the crap wipers, crap headlights or phantom braking. Thatās realityThatās a reminder that we should never let reality get in the way of a good story
Interestingly, since your post I noticed that a roundabout near me has one sign on one approach and the other sign on the opposite approach... I haven't checked the other 2 approaches yet.You might want to have a recap on roadsigns. Roundabouts and mini roundabouts are quite well defined.
Mini roundabout:
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āRegularā roundabout:
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Agreed, thereās ones that are hardly any bigger than a regular T junction near me to others that are big enough to be a full blown roundabout with just a small circle of paint slapped in the middle of the road because occasionally massive loads that need wide load support vehicles come that way and need tons of space and room.Well maybe you might actually set down your highway code book and try driving on actual roads then? A lot of the time, you won't see these signs at all approaching a roundabout, but just a regular road sign with a graphic showing London left, town centre straight on, business park to the right for example. So again, what defines a mini roundabout from a regular roundabout? Its still not clear. Advising people not to indicate at a mini roundabouts just isn't sound advice IMO. Indicating at all roundabouts is just a better approach, and I find it hard to consider the other side of that argument TBH.
Where have those figures come from? Teslafi show 51 variants of 2023.x.x live in their fleet. We are at 9 attempts just to get 2023.44.30 right.It's not really born out by the numbers though, there were significantly fewer updates in 2023 than 2020, so updates are now really coming slower than before.
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It's always needed about 5 attempts before they move onto the next update.
Its ok to be critical of Tesla, but perhaps we sometimes want to be too forgiving. IMO, this is just a bad error from Tesla the way they have gone with indicator buttons. We all own Teslas, so its not like we hate them or anything. I love Man United but there is quite a lot of things I'm not happy about right now, and I'm not going to gloss over the reality. Bad decisions have been made.Agreed, thereās ones that are hardly any bigger than a regular T junction near me to others that are big enough to be a full blown roundabout with just a small circle of paint slapped in the middle of the road because occasionally massive loads that need wide load support vehicles come that way and need tons of space and room.
Simple rule is always indicate. Itās funny that we are only discussing if we should bother with indicating when Tesla starts to make it hard to do.
No one saying donāt indicate, they are saying at a typical mini roundabout you donāt need to indicate to exit because the exit comes up so quickly, your car is already past the exit before the first flash even happens.Agreed, thereās ones that are hardly any bigger than a regular T junction near me to others that are big enough to be a full blown roundabout with just a small circle of paint slapped in the middle of the road because occasionally massive loads that need wide load support vehicles come that way and need tons of space and room.
Simple rule is always indicate. Itās funny that we are only discussing if we should bother with indicating when Tesla starts to make it hard to do.
They are the TeslaFi numbers for my specific car. The version number for 2023.44.30 might be at .9, but I've only received .4, .5.1 and .8Where have those figures come from? Teslafi show 51 variants of 2023.x.x live in their fleet. We are at 9 attempts just to get 2023.44.30 right.
Your comment seems slightly aggressive, perhaps you should check your own facts before telling someone else they are wrong. Admittedly a small sample size, but I just spent some time picking random mini roundabouts and normal roundabouts on the map & checking street view (in several different towns & regions of England).Well maybe you might actually set down your highway code book and try driving on actual roads then? A lot of the time, you won't see these signs at all approaching a roundabout, but just a regular road sign with a graphic showing London left, town centre straight on, business park to the right for example. So again, what defines a mini roundabout from a regular roundabout? Its still not clear. Advising people not to indicate at a mini roundabouts just isn't sound advice IMO. Indicating at all roundabouts is just a better approach, and I find it hard to consider the other side of that argument TBH.
The discussion point originated from Evmeister saying:No one saying donāt indicate, they are saying at a typical mini roundabout you donāt need to indicate to exit because the exit comes up so quickly, your car is already past the exit before the first flash even happens.
In reality your indicator needs to flash ~3 times before other road users take note of it and react accordingly. Youāll be half way down the next road from the mini roundabout by the time that happens.
I would add, no one is telling anyone not to indicate at mini-roundabouts. What we are saying is there is no requirement to indicate left when on the mini-roundabout to leave, and very often it's not remotely practical. As such it's less likely than some people imagine to need to operate the indicator buttons when the wheel is actually turned.Your comment seems slightly aggressive, perhaps you should check your own facts before telling someone else they are wrong. Admittedly a small sample size, but I just spent some time picking random mini roundabouts and normal roundabouts on the map & checking street view (in several different towns & regions of England).
Every single mini roundabout I looked at, without fail, had the small blue mini roundabout sign at every approach road, like this:
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Slightly larger ones always have the red triangle sign. These ones are quite rare, as this type of roundabout are not very common:
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Every big roundabout that did not have one of those two signs, had a larger sign on the coloured background appropriate for the road (A road green, B road white etc)
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Interesting point of note, the bigger the roundabout, the further back the sign is. Mini roundabouts have them right on the junction, or very close to it. The red triangles are maybe 50m away. The bigger signs with directions are often also scaled in distance depending on the speed limit of the road, it seems. Pretty sensible IMO.