johnnycnote
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I understand what you're trying to say, but that's very shortsighted given the macro economic conditions over the last 12-18 months. TSLA should be part of many long term portfolios
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I understand what you're trying to say, but that's very shortsighted given the macro economic conditions over the last 12-18 months. TSLA should be part of many long term portfolios
you realise there is and never was a working FSD anywhere outside USA?It would be more palatable if they called it "FSD (beta)" at least most consumers know what "beta" means ... unfinished.
But I don't think it's intentionally a con, I think Tesla underestimated the edge cases. It does what its supposed to 95% of the time, it's the 5% that feels like it's just broken and that's what makes the forums, youtube, headlines, etc.
FSD has been getting a lot better with the recent updates, so there's that.
when it never ever did?!It does what its supposed to 95% of the time,
...or inside USA. No actual FSD here, never was, never will be. Can't even legally call it "FSD" in the state Tesla was started in, California. Outlawed the very name a couple months ago. Tesla can't advertise FSD in Germany where another factory is. Legally, it is becoming increasingly a liability as many think it will never be fully allowed to be used in most countries, no matter how good it may someday become in HW5, 6... I'm often presented with the "Camera or cameras not working or are blocked" message due to some raindrops or mist on the glass in front of them. Vision AI only? Rainstorms, fog, snow, super dark night conditions, mud drops and wet leaves covering a camera? Any of those will inhibit the system. Today I found out that almost anything on or near the roadway that is covered in snow won't show up at all.you realise there is and never was a working FSD anywhere outside USA?
How can you say that when it never ever did?!
Sure at 50x earnings while every other automaker is now catching-up.... enjoy the ride.I understand what you're trying to say, but that's very shortsighted given the macro economic conditions over the last 12-18 months. TSLA should be part of many long term portfolios
I'll get your money back for you.So where do I put in for my FSD refund?
The one they said was coming 5 years ago and they sold as such? The one we (I) paid them actual money for, but received nothing. Yeah that one.
What are my chances in small claims!? (Good joke for a Saturday huh)
Why not get in touch with one of those big law firms who took on VW over dieselgate? I jumped onto one of those and got a couple of grand compensationSo where do I put in for my FSD refund?
The one they said was coming 5 years ago and they sold as such? The one we (I) paid them actual money for, but received nothing. Yeah that one.
What are my chances in small claims!? (Good joke for a Saturday huh)
Yeah me too. A couple of large was better than a poke in the eye.Why not get in touch with one of those big law firms who took on VW over dieselgate? I jumped onto one of those and got a couple of grand compensation
I reckon they'd get that easily, especially if they publicise the action. I reckon any lawyer would think this would be a pretty easy case to argueYeah me too. A couple of large was better than a poke in the eye.
Not sure the UK FSD claimant pool would be anywhere near as large though…reckon you’d need *at least* a thousand claimants before the lawyers would get out of bed
Yes on the face of it. I’m not the lawyer in the family though - it’s just them not delivering anything despite a charge of several thousand. Contract law.I reckon they'd get that easily, especially if they publicise the action. I reckon any lawyer would think this would be a pretty easy case to argue
Sure at 50x earnings while every other automaker is now catching-up.... enjoy the ride.
I'll let you in on a secret Albemarle (ALB on the NYSE). Doing very well. They own alot of territory with lithium under itSo Tesla sold 400K cars out of 14 million US. The other marques are still feeling the water for customer interest and component stability/availability, and ready to leap in with their offerings when the time is right. And without the Tesla BS
Lithium and EV battery stocks look pretty unexciting...
Morals are the preserve of the individual - they count for absolutely nothing in our modern world, business only cares about profit, however that's true for pretty much everything else too including industry, public bodies, government the focus is always the "legal, Semantics and distraction techniques.selling an option that does to work in my opinion is morally wrong, at present FSD is pointless in the UK Market and currently cars minus the USS can't support the EAP functionality, no wonderMusk is so rich taking money and not delivering