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As I mentioned last week, I still suspect the heat press uses a large amount of kWh. A Kill-a-watt would show you pretty quickly how much it is consuming. Sense could take weeks.
Max draw of something plugged in to a standard outlet is 36 KWh a day or 1MWh a month if it's on 24 x 7. So unless this is on literally all day, every day, it can't be even half of his 2,400 KWh usage.
Right now, if I had to guess, I'd say it was the preheating and constant vampire drain from my API polling that accounted for the additional 500kwh of usage. Time will tell!
Preheating is a max of 6KWh. To hit 500 KWh you'd need to pre-heat for 83 hours, and that assumes the car was so cold out that it actually ran the heater full bore that time and didn't heat the car to your target temp. Generally if you turn on pre-heat at temps above freezing it doesn't need to run that long to get the cabin to 70F and then only needs to run now and then to maintain.
I'd venture to guess that 500KWh could keep a Tesla at 70F for about 14 days if it was 32F out.
500KWh is a LOT of energy. It's enough to take a Tesla 1,500 miles. This kind of energy doesn't just leak away in heat or vampire drain.
I'd venture to guess that 500KWh could keep a Tesla at 70F for about 14 days if it was 32F out.
500KWh is a LOT of energy. It's enough to take a Tesla 1,500 miles. This kind of energy doesn't just leak away in heat or vampire drain.
martinicus
Member
Yea vampire drain won't account for that. At most it's keeping your car idling 24/7 rather than sleeping. It's something in your house. When you get your sense you'll get real-time data and will be able to immediately see the effects of turning on/off circuits and appliances.
Just to update everyone as it's been just about a week and I am on pace for 2151 kwh for 60 days. I dont think the heat press was the culprit as my wife used it extensively yesterday and I took a mid-day reading (not listed below) and usage was normal. Driving and Charging looks good too (today's TeslaFi is an example). It appears when I don't charge my Tesla, my usage is around 21kwh per day which is very much inline with my period a year ago.
Tomorrow my Sense is getting installed for more insight into my home.
Tomorrow my Sense is getting installed for more insight into my home.
FlyF4
Son of a MX
Uh, you might check that number again. 36 KWh is not that much over a typical home use for one day. National average is about 32 KWh daily in USA and Canada. If I am not misunderstanding what you are saying, an average home only uses about 10 KWh a day? That might be an average for a home in the Mediterranean countries
Before we added two Teslas to the house, we were averaging less than 10 kWh per day in our 3500 sq. ft. home. I live in Colorado at 5900 feet so there's no need for A/C 99% of the time.Uh, you might check that number again. 36 KWh is not that much over a typical home use for one day. National average is about 32 KWh daily in USA and Canada. If I am not misunderstanding what you are saying, an average home only uses about 10 KWh a day? That might be an average for a home in the Mediterranean countries
Now that we have the Teslas and some electric heating, the average is 30 to 50 kWh per day.
thefortunes
Active Member
I mentioned our usage back a few pages, but here in WI last month we used 620kWh (~21 kWh/day) to charge our two Teslas and 531kWh (~18kWh/day) for the rest of our 4,000 sf home. It is winter, so we aren't using A/C or running the pool
FlyF4
Son of a MX
Wow, that's pretty good for Colorado. And the fact that you use hardly any AC is the main reason you get away with that low of energy. I'm sure you already know that.
Actually, I don't even have A/C. On those 3-4 days a year that are really hot and there's no wind, I just spend my time in the walkout basement.
Many houses here don't have A/C. Evaporative coolers are very popular here and very energy efficient compared to A/C. I had one installed at my last house but really haven't felt the need to install one at the 'new' house over the past 8 years.
So I've had Sense up for a few days and it's still learning my house. It hasn't learned my Tesla yet so it would show up as unknown. I woke up this morning at 5:30am and according to Sense, and I was already at 21kwh for the whole house and according to Teslafi, my car used up:
Used - 13.9 kWh
Added - 14.6 kWh
Does TeslaFi provide actual KWh used? Or is it based on estimates? It could be perhaps Sense is off too...I have a hard time believing I used up 7kwh in 5 hours with the whole house sleeping.
Used - 13.9 kWh
Added - 14.6 kWh
Does TeslaFi provide actual KWh used? Or is it based on estimates? It could be perhaps Sense is off too...I have a hard time believing I used up 7kwh in 5 hours with the whole house sleeping.
That works out nicely to 12 amp draw on a 110V outlet. Assuming whatever is using the energy is running on the recommended load of 80% of circuit breaker, check for 15 amp and higher circuit breakers that may have had changes in load (maybe from the new business?) over the last few months. If possible, try turning off some of them to see if you can isolate it to a particular circuit.
scottf200
Well-Known Member
I received this response from 'Sense Customer Support' on March 27, 2017 when I asked about support for Teslas and Chevrolet Volts.
whitex
Well-Known Member
How well does it work? Did it recognize the Tesla charging? How much of total power is accounted for (recognized devices) after a few days?
whitex
Well-Known Member
I picked this one up for about $100 new (it's been a while, so don't remember exactly). Smaller than a utility meter, easier to read too (digital readout of KWh). You just feed the wires through it (no cutting, only a couple of screws that tap the wire, so yes, breaker must be off during installation).
Hmmm, your first post and it's an advertisement for a company in Ukraine where you are from. Advertising?
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