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I have no idea how Alex ended up with 260wh/mi on his test... I've been averaging at most 230 wh/mi if it's mostly highway driving and 215 wh/mi if i'm doing city.
Also keep in mind the EPA energy consumption INCLUDES charging losses. This is because they're measuring the power they input to the car from the wall. NOT from the battery. The charger onboard the vehicle has to transform AC to DC and we lose some efficiency there. As such you can probably lop off ~10% of the stated EPA consumption. This is because the EPA sticker is there for you to gauge cost of ownership for the vehicle not for us to do this kind of analysis.
Here is my thread with real world highway Wh/m readings(spelling should be ignored) .
First Tesla M3 SR+ road trip
City driving is typically 10% better, unless(as mentioned) it is shorter than 10miles, where the AC eats up the driving efficiency benefits.
198 highway miles with 2 adults, 2 kids and luggage took the battery from 99% to 17%.
Again, that's 2 miles per percentage point, which would reflect a true range of only 200 miles. I really worry there is something wrong with my car.
Judging from your profile picture, you have the 19" performance wheels? The EPA hasn't officially rated the SR+ with bigger tires, but judging by Troy Teslike's range table, that will knock 20 miles off the rated range right off the bat. And then the rest could be down to your average speed. At 70-75 MPH with 19" wheels, you'd be achieving the EPA dynamo test performance by getting ~200 miles of range: Teslike.com
This is unbelievably helpful! Of all the posts I've read this best explains what I'm seeing. Just one question---do you know what Teslike bases its table on? In other words, who did the tests?
Thanks a million. This is a huge help!
The table is a little outdated now, but it's based on the dynamo data from the EPA rating tests. I believe the actual raw data is on page 25 of this PDF for the SR+ https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=46584&flag=1
I would take AoA review of Tesla Model 3 with big grain on salt. If you look at the data, it does not match with actual owners data. He is hell bent on selling Kia Niro, evening claiming Kia Niro is somehow efficient even on highway.
I used to trust his reviews, because I did not have the cars he reviewed to really know better. But with Tesla Model 3, I know what is true and what is not.
All his reviews( any car review, not specific to Tesla), pretty much in the end conclude Kia/Hyundai models are somehow better, whatever the reason he can come up with. Sometime there are good reasons. But he mixes truth with fud making to looks like truth.
Claims, he does not take money from Hyundai/Kia, but I highly suspect his motives.
I feel exactly the same about AoA.I feel exactly the same about.
I feel exactly the same about AoA.I would take AoA review of Tesla Model 3 with big grain on salt. If you look at the data, it does not match with actual owners data. He is hell bent on selling Kia Niro, evening claiming Kia Niro is somehow efficient even on highway.
I used to trust his reviews, because I did not have the cars he reviewed to really know better. But with Tesla Model 3, I know what is true and what is not.
All his reviews( any car review, not specific to Tesla), pretty much in the end conclude Kia/Hyundai models are somehow better, whatever the reason he can come up with. Sometime there are good reasons. But he mixes truth with fud making to looks like truth.
Claims, he does not take money from Hyundai/Kia, but I highly suspect his motives.
I have had my Model 3 for just over a year now. In general it is excellent, except that the battery capacity seems very low; by my calculations it is only around 44kWh (for example, a typical journey of 76.4mi @ 227 Wh/mi used 39% battery). I have measured the battery size a number of times, on a range of journeys, and always get a similar figure.
This seems very low to me, given that I was expecting a size of around 54kWh. I also don't know how I could ever get close to the WLTP range, even under the most benign of conditions. I have asked Tesla about this, but they say my battery is normal. Surely there must be some threshold below which a battery is deemed not to be to specification? A 20% loss of capacity (even allowing for some unusable battery) is surely unacceptable?
Has anyone else had a similar experience?
SR+ is a true sub 200 mile range car
You probably never use your heater. When i drive during negative degrees battery freezes. And I am happy to get 330 Wh/mile efficiency. On pa turnpike speed limit is 70mph, everyone drives 80-90. At these speeds and cold temps its impossible to go below 300Y'all are some terribly inefficient drivers, then: What's your SR/+ single-charge distance record?
After almost 2 years with my 2019 SR+ (EPA range of 240), my lifetime average is 225 Wh/mi. 54 kWh / 0.225 kWh/mi= 240 miles.
You probably never use your heater. When i drive during negative degrees battery freezes. And I am happy to get 330 Wh/mile efficiency. On pa turnpike speed limit is 70mph, everyone drives 80-90. At these speeds and cold temps its impossible to go below 300
I'm averaging about 245 Wh/mi, although I do a fair bit of motorway driving.Y'all are some terribly inefficient drivers, then: What's your SR/+ single-charge distance record?
After almost 2 years with my 2019 SR+ (EPA range of 240), my lifetime average is 225 Wh/mi. 54 kWh / 0.225 kWh/mi= 240 miles.
The problem is that the battery size, as measured by my Model 3 displays, is only 44kWh.