I am just curious. Why does Tesla not have a Birdseye view camera like most other manufacturers. It is so helpful in parking and staying away from curbs.
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Why No Birds Eyeview?
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Because Elon doesn't necessarily care about that.
Actually, in 10/2020, Elon said it was coming to FSD cars. When is the question. Likely not a high priority right now.
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Tam
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The same reason that it hits the curbs and short mannequins.
Some genius set up a pure vision self driving camera system that cannot see 360 at a same time.
It can stitch different views at different times to create "vector-space bird's eye view" but by that time, your tire is curbed and the short mannequin is run over.
Tam
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Yes, but not in real-time.
The real-time for those pictures is before turning right, and the system can still see the right curb and a short mannequin in front of the intersection (if you place it there).
However, as the car moves up to turn right, what it saw was the past. In the present, in turning right: the right curb disappears, and the short mannequin also disappears under the hood.
In real-time, when the car is about to hit the short mannequin and the right curb, it could sense no danger because it saw the danger was in the past, and the presence would register as no obstacles: Clear to hit!
WilliamG
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Cheeses me off there's no camera in the front bumper. Needs it desperately. Can't think of any other car in anywhere near this price bracket without one.
They are too busy writing the code to add additional video games to the cars rather than focusing on something practical like this.
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Falcon73
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Yeah even our 2018 Leaf has 360, but we are planning on trading it in for an S now, after needing a tow 2 nights ago (fun times). Tesla should certainly have 360 as well, sigh.
Cheburashka
Active Member
My 2008 Infiniti had it...
Tesla needs to add basic features like 360 camera as well as rear cross-traffic detection. Kinda shocking they didnt add it even on the new S.
vcor
Tech Specialist
Tesla would need to add at least 3 more cameras for 360 views. The front and side cameras do not capture close into the car. The existing cameras are optimized for FSD distance and safety features.
Similarly, cars with 360-degree view cameras cannot use them for FSD or safety features as they are pointed in the wrong direction. These cameras are focused on down near-the-car views.
Now a select few cars do both, like the $170K Lucid, but they have a lot more cameras. I guess that the $70K difference has to pay for something extra. So yes it can be done, but so far Tesla has elected to focus on FSD and safety features. It is not likely to be added with software alone.
Similarly, cars with 360-degree view cameras cannot use them for FSD or safety features as they are pointed in the wrong direction. These cameras are focused on down near-the-car views.
Now a select few cars do both, like the $170K Lucid, but they have a lot more cameras. I guess that the $70K difference has to pay for something extra. So yes it can be done, but so far Tesla has elected to focus on FSD and safety features. It is not likely to be added with software alone.
DanCar
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There have been a couple of news articles that says this is coming perhaps by end of this year.
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ucmndd
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I think so, yes. Even Silicon Valley can't magic together a 360 image without cameras in the right spots. If they could have, it would be done already.
At minimum you need a new camera in the nose pointing down and probably at least one more on each side pointing down (most cars with 360 views put them in the side mirrors).
Tam
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Maybe he's saying that software can overcome hardware's weakness the same way as a human can.
Before the mandate of rearview cameras, humans could back up safely without running a baby crawling on the ground near the rear.
How's that possible when a driver in the car would look back and couldn't see anything on the ground in the rear?
That's because before getting in the car, a good driver would inspect for ground clearance at the car's rear, ensuring no baby crawling there.
Notice that "clearance" info is in the past, and when the driver got in the car, the memory of clearance still lingered, and the driver would back the car up without real-time info from rear camera technology.
Tesla could tweak its software to do the same with short obstacles under the hood and road curbs: Although the current cameras cannot see in real-time when they are at reaching those obstacles, Tesla could write a program to recall the memory of obstacles in the past. It should use memory to assume that those obstacles are still there.
The problem is: One minute there's no kid crawling on the ground, and another minute a kid could be there so the government has mandated a real-time rear view camera.
