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  1. NV Ray

    2024; Tesla's Tipping Point?

    Considering worldwide BEV demand softening and lower than expected 2024 Q1 Tesla deliveries (despite many demand levers). Further, today's announcement of 10% reduction in Tesla workforce. And today's dual departure of two high level executives (8 year Rohan Patel and 16 year Drew Baglino)...
  2. NV Ray

    Stator Temp; New Tesla sport U version rear drive unit

    I recently proactively replaced my rear drive unit on my 2012 P85 with the new sport U Tesla seal delete manifold. Here's my ScanMyTesla highest stator temp. Test done at 75 mph flat highway for 40 miles. Outside temp 55 F. 4500 feet elevation.
  3. NV Ray

    RDU/LDU coolant bypass innovation

    There has been a recent rear drive unit/large drive unit innovation/modification from both Tesla and QC Charge for 2012-2014 Tesla Model S (all) and 2015-2020 Tesla Model S and X, Performance versions only, rear drive motor only. Tesla calls it their new "U" seal delete manifold version. QC...
  4. NV Ray

    Proactively replacing RDU/LDU

    I've decided to proactively have my RDU/LDU replaced on my 2012 P85 with Tesla's newest "U" seal delete manifold version. Having it done by the Portland Tesla Service Center, so no state sales tax. No major issues with my current RDU?LDU - no alerts. Spaceship sound upon acceleration. Little...
  5. NV Ray

    P85 Rear Drive Unit; does latest Sport "U" version have coolant delete?

    Attached is my quote for a new replacement RDU for my 2012 P85. Part # 1002633-01-U. Does this "U" version come with the new coolant delete feature mitagating seal leakage? I've heard the regular RDU does come with coolant delete but not the performance (sport) like mine.
  6. NV Ray

    Wild Wild West

    FWIW - here's quick list of EV technician certification (if that's what it's called) courses after a one page Google search. I don't endorse any of them, just passing info. Is there any training standard out there for EV technicians, or still the Wild Wild West? Please add any training courses...
  7. NV Ray

    EV car fire video

    Exceptional recent 8 min video by Colorado Fire Dept of response to home EV car fire. Three recommendations towards end of video - (1) stay home while charging, (2) use manufacturer approved charging cables, and (3) do not block exit paths while charging i.e. charging mobility device in a hallway.
  8. NV Ray

    Sun visor see through extensions

    2012 P85 here. At times my sun visor lacks sun blocking function, perhaps because they seem so narrow. Any recommendations for see through extensions like this? Sun Visor Extender
  9. NV Ray

    Out of warranty replacement pack more than car's worth.

    Would you have bought/buy an electric vehicle (Tesla for most of us) if you knew/know a failed out of warranty replacement pack might cost you more than the car is valued upon pack failure?
  10. NV Ray

    Where's the degradation?

    2012 P85 #2446 here. It's been exactly one year since I got my new (not reman) out of pocket pack from Tesla. 90 kWh corked to 85 kwh. Since day one 244 rated miles at 90% SoC. Same 244 today. My question - No degradation because corked to 85 and any degradation is in the 5 kWh I don't see? Or...
  11. NV Ray

    Could Tesla sell their Supercharger "division"?

    Yesterday BP made this announcement. Could be lucrative revenue stream for Tesla. But also, a harbinger of giant oil company offering Tesla a significant amount for their Supercharger "division"...
  12. NV Ray

    Tesla's Free Unlimited Supercharging cost

    From this recent article on the recent Tesla Supercharging Transfer offer - "There are still today a few hundreds of thousands of Tesla vehicles with unlimited free Supercharging around the world. At some point, Tesla said it was paying about $20 million yearly to support owners on free...
  13. NV Ray

    Dual blank/black screens

    2012 MS P85. Software 2023.32.7. MCU2 upgrade Mar 2023. Twice in the past week I was welcomed, both first thing in the morning, to dual blank/black screens. Able to place car in gear, key fob OK to regulate frunk, trunk lid, etc. Unable to open charging port lid using fob, app or charging...
  14. NV Ray

    New Utah law and FUSC owners

    Utah passed and signed HR 301 last May to go into effect 1 Jan 2024. Law imposes a 12.5% charging station fee based on kWh usage. How would free unlimited supercharging owners be taxed? Or would they? https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/HB0301.html
  15. NV Ray

    Pricing increase on both new and reman Tesla replacement packs

    From multiple sources (not from my Tesla Service Center), I've recently discovered a potential new Tesla price increase on both their 90/85 reman and new replacement packs. Previous (for at least the past year) - $13.5k USD base for reman, $17k base for new. Potential current prices - $14.5k...
  16. NV Ray

    Replacement HV Pack conundrum

    This recent article highlights a current challenge not only for Tesla, but the entire future EV industry - how to make out of pocket replacement packs more affordable so that EVs don't become disposable. I'm confident the future will have crate HV packs like current ICE crate engines. Fingers...
  17. NV Ray

    $17K vs $21K ?

    Tesla new replacement pack question for 2012-15 MS85s ---- difference between $21k USD (part # 1101078-00-A) and $17k (part# 1014116-00-C) ?
  18. NV Ray

    Cost evolution of MS/X yoke

    First standard, then free after round was standard, then $250, now $1000. What a yoke 😃
  19. NV Ray

    Spaceship/whirling RDU noise?

    2012 Signature P85, probably original RDU. Purchased from original owner. As depicted in the video "spaceship" sound upon acceleation. That sounds stops immediately when you take you foot off the accelerator. Lastly, whirling sound depicted in video emanating from RDU when coming to stop. Video...
  20. NV Ray

    Model S/X Battery Upgrade Compatability

    @wk057 is this up to date? Thx. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgSyLrNimg5wdoxzIzxcXcIZy79Zinq80wdcudn7xg0/htmlview#gid=0
  21. NV Ray

    Tesla Reman Replacement HV battery failure trend?

    Based on my personal discussion with at least a dozen BMS-u029/018 Tesla REMANUFACTURED replacement pack casualties, there seems to be a growing trend that Tesla REMAN replacement packs are failing in less than 2 years. Tesla still offers a 4 year/50k mile warranty on both their REMAN and NEW...
  22. NV Ray

    Good idea to proactively replace RDU

    2012 P85 #2446 w/130k miles. 2d owner. Bought last Fall from original owner for $27k. Appears to be on original drive unit. All figures in USD. Since ownership, got BMS_u029 alert 3 days after purchase. Paid $15k for NEW 2022 build replacement pack (got lucky and Tesla honored $15k for reman...
  23. NV Ray

    12v jump starter functionality

    Does a 12v jump starter (pic) simply provide enough juice to open doors, etc if regular 12v dies or can you drive the car with the 12v jump starter attached in lieu of regular 12v?
  24. NV Ray

    I just gotta vent

    2012 MS P85. Love the "vent" feature on the app. Is there anyway to use the app or center screen action to close all four windows when you get back into the car? Or must we close with the window switches?
  25. NV Ray

    Gotta figure this out for the future of EVs

    On a macro scale, what EV car manufacturers (and to some degree 3rd party vendors) need to address/balance in the future is the replacement cost of HV battery vs current value of the EV. Older 2012-2015 Model S's replacement packs from Tesla currently are $15k and $20k USD (that includes labor...
  26. NV Ray

    Roadtrip - Which car would you take?

    Given you have a choice, which car would you take? Will be doing round trip from Reno/Tahoe to San Diego next week. Google Maps indicates 563 miles x 2 for 1126 miles. Starting elevation 4500', max 8330', min sea level. Just my spouse and I. Due to heat forecasted between 95-108 degrees along...
  27. NV Ray

    Pyro Fuse Fuss

    Have seen multiple Model S reports, both in USA and Europe, over the past few days indicating alert that battery operated pyro fuse needs replacement with newer self powered pyro fuse. In some cases pack needs removal due to location of access cover. So far underdetermined if covered under...
  28. NV Ray

    Solved - BMS_u029 alert cause

    As someone who paid Tesla 5 figures for a replacement pack, I figure I'm entitled :)
  29. NV Ray

    Signature MS #86 spotted for sale

    If you can get dealer to go below $25k you might be eligible for up to an additional $4000 USA Fed Tax credit. Consult your tax advisor. Don't be misled by the thumbnail. Selling price in ad is higher than 24,995. https://www.nycmotorcars.com/inventory/tesla/model-s/uc2755ha/
  30. NV Ray

    BMS_u029 related car fire

    About 10 days ago a BMS_u029 related MS car fire was reported. Anyone heard an update? I've seen one online news report that sited @wk057 initial report. Thx.
  31. NV Ray

    Starting to see 2015s with BMS_u029 and 018

    Up until now the BMS_029 and BMS_u018 alerts have affected the 2012-14 Model S. There was some conjecture that the 2015 MS would be immune due to better batteries. VINs above and below 75000 have chimed in.
  32. NV Ray

    Will corked pack calibrate?

    2012 P85. New 90 kWh replacement pack corked to 85. Will pack ever calibrate eventhough I never really charge to 100%? Due to corking, 100% SOC is actually 95% SOC. @Recell @wk057
  33. NV Ray

    Recent class action lawsuit related to BMS_u029 alert

    Lawsuit that @EricHarrison has been preparing on this BMS_u029 alert issue has moved to the step of a formal complaint filed today in the US District Court Northern District of California. In part, 35 page complaint states "Vehicle owners also receive an error message, “BMS_u029,” which...
  34. NV Ray

    Early Model S reman pack labels & used car market

    Here is my current understanding (please flag any corrections) of how to read the Tesla reman labels. The pic is a Tesla reman pack label. The T13G*******R1 serial number means it's originally a July (G is 7th letter in the alphabet) 2013 pack that has been remanufactured once - T13G and R1...
  35. NV Ray

    New 2012-14 MS Tesla replacement pack?

    Not to sound the alarm. Just passing on information. Over the past week, two instances have come to my attention that Tesla Service Centers are not offering owners NEW out of warranty MS replacement packs. Both cases involved the BMS_u029 alert requiring out of warranty pack replacement. One...
  36. NV Ray

    This is what the owner's manual says

    2012 P85 RWD here - pic is from Tesla MS Owner's Manual under "Charging Best Practices". I thought we were supposed to obey the 20/80 rule? https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2012_2020_models/en_us/
  37. NV Ray

    Reman pack labels in the wild

    Attached pic is from a Tesla reman MS pack. Do reman packs that you get from 3rd party vendors also have a similar replacement label? If so, could you provide any pics? Asking as some folks interested in purchasing used out of warranty 2012-15 MS's might run across 3rd party reman labels and...
  38. NV Ray

    TSC installed out of warranty REMAN replacement pack when owner approved NEW

    Hopefully someone in this Forum can help @Bob Atkins. After getting the BMS_u029 alert resulting in out of warranty replacement pack, his local Tesla Service Center installed a reman pack even though he approved quote for new pack. Personnally, I did not see this scenario coming. To me seems...
  39. NV Ray

    Can You Trust Tesla's Impact Report Regarding Battery Packs? The Answer Is No

    Recent article that quotes @Recell and @Bob Atkins. Ever growing member Tesla BMS_u029/BMS_u018 | Facebook also mentioned. The underlying story is the growing number of 2012-14 Model S's falling victim to either the BMS_u029 or BMS_u018 alert requiring out of warranty $10k-$20k pack replacement...
  40. NV Ray

    Older Model S BUYER BEWARE (BMS_u029 or BMS_u018)

    I'm hearing about a potenially alarming trend in the used 2012-14 Model S market that refers to these FAQs I put together. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_CBfEdMrbHJx2N9pyU8awwbJ7EmhImI/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=101367879314455822316&rtpof=true&sd=true Specifically, the BMS_u029/018 is a...
  41. NV Ray

    Recent 2000 mile trip

    Recent trip. Reno-San Diego-Prescott-Reno. 2012 P85 with recent out of warranty replacement pack (new, not reman).
  42. NV Ray

    What's difference between remanufactured HV packs?

    That you get from Tesla vs 3rd party vendor. Do both take faulty pack and keep good cells/modules/hardware? Then replace faulty cells/modules/hardware? Then check for electrical balance, etc? Or does Tesla rebuild their reman packs with all new cells and hardware?
  43. NV Ray

    Slacker - positive experience

    2012 MS P85. Wanted to convey a very positive experience with Tesla via Service Request, Couple weeks ago paid $1750 plus tax for MCU2 uprade. Noticed Slacker was not present. As free unlimited Premium Connectivity holder, Slacker (via "streaming" icon) is no cost. My query started with a...
  44. NV Ray

    BMS_u029 FAQs

    Put together this FAQ BSM_u029 FAQs.docx after I started this Tesla BMS_u029 | Facebook Welcome any corrections, additions, comments and constructive criticism :)
  45. NV Ray

    What's this Tesla Lawsuit on reduced battery range...

    ...due to recent firmware update? https://attorneywestseattle.com/tesla-law-suit?fbclid=IwAR2tmCgGd0LmAwQKS-3LDzMP4BQ12AzSxF31y2peXpWw9GQB7v3hdDc0sk8
  46. NV Ray

    Gruber Motors responses to BMS_u029 error message

    I tuned into Gruber Motors live broadcast this morning and got their feedback on the BMS_u029 issue. Very informative answers. My three questions: (1) There have been a growing number of early Model S's with BMS_u029 error message. TSCs requires full pack replacement. Have you run across...
  47. NV Ray

    Getting MCU2 upgrade

    2012 P85, #2446 - getting MCU2 upgrade next week less FM radio.
  48. NV Ray

    MCU1 w/NVIDIA Tegra blacking out

    2012 MS P85 w/MCU1 - Have NVIDIA Tegra infotainment processor. Yesterday my center screen intermittently went black for several minutes. Then came back on after getting back in the car. Then went black again. Just did "four finger" reset. Seems OK now. I know this was an issue with the old eMCC...