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The closer we get to a release, the closer we get to the service going subscription only. Offering FSD as an outright purchase was just for initial early adopters. Raising the upfront cost is just being done because they don’t need more takers to fund the development, and because they don’t want more takers who won’t need the subscription service once it’s the only option.
Software as a Service (SaaS) is the way the tech industry has been moving for years now. Tesla doesn’t want to charge you $10k for life. They want to charge you $200/month for the first year, then price increases to $300/month for the 3 years after that. Or as others in the thread floated, scale the fee with miles driven. That’s why all cars supposedly come with the hardware for FSD even if you don’t take the FSD package.
SaaS has proven a superior model for the software companies for various reasons, especially the way it smoothes out their revenue to a regular income stream, rather than have it come it jolts with new product releases. That also helps with ongoing funding of the software development. Tesla’s competition like the Luminar-Volvo-Zeneact Drive Pilot, and GM’s Supercruise are also planned to be subscription services.
This price increase is likely due to the release date approaching. The fact that the price increase is also only in the US market tells us the release will only be in the US which is where the regulatory environment is most accommodating (no FSD beta whatsoever outside of the US so far). So the US FSD release date is getting closer, but international FSD release date is probably still a long way off.
I paid $6K for FSD, I wouldn't do it again knowing what I know now. The idea of paying $12K for something that doesn't work and might never work is crazy. I bet their uptake on FSD is going to drop to near zero after this price increase. Does anyone feel that FSD is worth $12K, now or if even if they achieve Level 4 (note that Elon said Level 4 on is annual by the end of next year it will work tweet, in the past he always said Level 5 so he's losing confidence).
A fool and their money...Why would anyone buy it now at all? It is years away from being ready for reliable functionality. And if and when it does reach that point, I suspect that a whole new pricing paradigm will apply, whether you bought the current version of FSD or not. As somebody else said few posts up, the people currently buying FSD are paying Tesla for the privilege of being (very long term) beta testers. I am very committed to electric motoring and I really appreciate my Model 3, but I said a big 'NO' to the FSD option.
To us it wasn't worth $10K. I am not buying a Tesla MYP to drive like a grandma to "earn" the right to get a 99 score so I can use the very item I am paying $10K for.I paid $6K for FSD, I wouldn't do it again knowing what I know now. The idea of paying $12K for something that doesn't work and might never work is crazy. I bet their uptake on FSD is going to drop to near zero after this price increase. Does anyone feel that FSD is worth $12K, now or if even if they achieve Level 4 (note that Elon said Level 4 on is annual by the end of next year it will work tweet, in the past he always said Level 5 so he's losing confidence).
I would still pay 12kI paid $6K for FSD, I wouldn't do it again knowing what I know now. The idea of paying $12K for something that doesn't work and might never work is crazy. I bet their uptake on FSD is going to drop to near zero after this price increase. Does anyone feel that FSD is worth $12K, now or if even if they achieve Level 4 (note that Elon said Level 4 on is annual by the end of next year it will work tweet, in the past he always said Level 5 so he's losing confidence).
I would still pay 12k
because you don’t realize how much of a pipe dream it is until you live with AP. My dad basically gifted me a new model 3 (honestly I did not even want it) but he wanted to do something nice for me and my kids after making a boatload on Tesla stock. I didn’t do enough research because knowing what I know now (a mere 2 months into ownership) I would never buy FSD. Hell, I would never buy another Tesla ever again as this has been a miserable and cut-rate ownership experience from the day we placed a deposit. I should have done more digging, but my sister who loves her model X never warned me. Right now, wrongly or rightly, I feel scammed. AP and TACC are flat dangerous and true FSD is not happening any time soon (I have my doubts about in our lifetimes). There are just too many variables and split second judgments that a computer is incapable of processing. It really makes you appreciate how amazing and beautiful the human brain is.Why would anyone buy it now at all? It is years away from being ready for reliable functionality. And if and when it does reach that point, I suspect that a whole new pricing paradigm will apply, whether you bought the current version of FSD or not. As somebody else said few posts up, the people currently buying FSD are paying Tesla for the privilege of being (very long term) beta testers. I am very committed to electric motoring and I really appreciate my Model 3, but I said a big 'NO' to the FSD option.
However, I was not focused enough on the "video" reporting button on my touchscreen to send images. Sorry about that but I was trying to stay alive.