2021 Model S

[umair239]

my Jan 2020 Model S get 33 consistency on wall charger....

Batteries started getting higher charging rate at revision G. If your battery is not G revised version then you won't get faster charging rate, or at least that is my understanding

 

[r1200gs4ok]

Range on G battery pack is 348 miles
Range on H battery pack was 348 but with newer update it's 387 miles

is that the EPA range? I thought it was 402

 

[r1200gs4ok]

Batteries started getting higher charging rate at revision G. If your battery is not G revised version then you won't get faster charging rate, or at least that is my understanding

well my Jan 2020 is an Rev F......I went to charge 3 days ago and went to the Irvine charger...It is a 72kW......there were 4 cars there and no one on either side.....I could only get 56kW.....change to another spot and got 55kW......at the one in Santa Ana which is 15okW, I started at 145kW and after 5 min it went to 76kW....what is going on

 

[LN1_Casey]

is that the EPA range? I thought it was 402

The Long Range model is 402, the Performance recently increased from 348 to 387.

 

[r1200gs4ok]

The Long Range model is 402, the Performance recently increased from 348 to 387.

got it...thanks

 

[carles2m]

I am supposed to get mine next Saturday. Would you mind sharing what the defects were so I can keep a look out?

what happens if you refuse delivery? Do they find you another car quickly or do you have to start All over with an order and a build?

See for yourself... I would not have rejected delivery for a subset of these, but the whole accumulation scared me off (and I was so eager to drive it before inspecting it!...)

1. The whole front bumper was not correctly assembled.
2. Rocker panels not aligned on front; they aligned fine on the back - rocker panel not long enough?
3. Loose undercoats of the wheel wells (a plastic nut even fell from one of them), the cover of the trunk well also didn't fit (could not put it in place!).
4. Hood plastic not assembled (didn't try to put it in place, but maybe easy fix).
5. Taillights... omg where do I start... Excessive glue, dirt behind the taillight, left black cover not mounted properly (right one was OK), I almost could cut my finger with the exposed metal...
6. Interior was dirty (and they told me the car had just left the detailer)
7. Door seals were loose, you could almost take them off easily with a simple pinch.
8. And finally the overall quality of materials is much poorer than what I expected compared to my friend's 2017 Model S (pre-Raven), like the seats feel plastic instead of being leather; I guess I now know firsthand where the cut in prices comes from.

 

[MorrisonHiker]

8. And finally the overall quality of materials is much poorer than what I expected compared to my friend's 2017 Model S (pre-Raven), like the seats feel plastic instead of being leather; I guess I now know firsthand where the cut in prices comes from.

Are you sure you friend has leather? Tesla hasn't had leather seats since 2016.

I ordered a 2016 S90D with grey leather interior. The premium white interior was announced shortly after I gave the OK to put my order into production and I missed out on getting the premium white interior on that car by a week.

I guess they could've had other colors of leather available after 2016...but grey went away in late 2016.

 

[carles2m]

Are you sure you friend has leather? I don't think Tesla had leather seats since 2016.

My friend's car seats may not be pure leather, but they definitely feel like some sort of leather. For this new car the seats felt like plastic.

 

[wk2000]

My friend's car seats may not be pure leather, but they definitely feel like some sort of leather. For this new car the seats felt like plastic.

Mine is on order, due in three weeks. If you refuse delivery, what is next step? Do you order the same thing car and start over?

 

[carles2m]

Mine is on order, due in three weeks. If you refuse delivery, what is next step? Do you order the same thing car and start over?

They automatically put you up for the same car all over again like you just placed the order.

 

[Sances]

Oh, that dampens my enthusiasm significantly. Sigh. Sorry that you (almost) got such a poorly put together car. I'd better get ready for the inspection....

 

[BioSci]

It's not uncommon for the first few vehicles off the assembly line in a new model line to have some issues. Use a co-inspector and have a plan. Practice beforehand on your car, itemizing defects. Compare notes with your co-inspector.

 

[carles2m]

It's not uncommon for the first few vehicles off the assembly line in a new model line to have some issues. Use a co-inspector and have a plan. Practice beforehand on your car, itemizing defects. Compare notes with your co-inspector.

I hope that holds true. Will wait for a second car but if the experience repeats I'm done with Tesla. Fool me once...

 

[TSLA Pilot]

See for yourself... I would not have rejected delivery for a subset of these, but the whole accumulation scared me off (and I was so eager to drive it before inspecting it!...)

1. The whole front bumper was not correctly assembled.
2. Rocker panels not aligned on front; they aligned fine on the back - rocker panel not long enough?
3. Loose undercoats of the wheel wells (a plastic nut even fell from one of them), the cover of the trunk well also didn't fit (could not put it in place!).
4. Hood plastic not assembled (didn't try to put it in place, but maybe easy fix).
5. Taillights... omg where do I start... Excessive glue, dirt behind the taillight, left black cover not mounted properly (right one was OK), I almost could cut my finger with the exposed metal...
6. Interior was dirty (and they told me the car had just left the detailer)
7. Door seals were loose, you could almost take them off easily with a simple pinch.
8. And finally the overall quality of materials is much poorer than what I expected compared to my friend's 2017 Model S (pre-Raven), like the seats feel plastic instead of being leather; I guess I now know firsthand where the cut in prices comes from.

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I'm sorry, but was that Model S wrecked on the way to, or on the way back from, the detailer?

Just kidding, but, wow, what a friggin' mess.

I'm a LONG-TERM shareholder, and I too would have rejected that car. Simply unacceptable customer service.

ELON: GET ON THIS. It's reached the point that we're all getting embarrassed by crap like this being shipped from Fremont. The Model S has been in production for how long now? DIAL IT IN, or fire those that won't/can't be trained to fix this problem.

Thanks.

 

[Krash]

Elon doesn't have to step in. Having manufacturing on three continents will eventually force the quality control up. No factory is going to want to be the "bad" one.

 

[BigNick]

An 8-year-old could put a plastic model kit together and have it looking better.

 

[VikH]

I’m a little confused here. Why has the MS LR+ not received a range bump but the MS Perf did? I assume the range bump is due to the H pack similar to the X.

Are you sure you friend has leather? Tesla hasn't had leather seats since 2016.

I ordered a 2016 S90D with grey leather interior. The premium white interior was announced shortly after I gave the OK to put my order into production and I missed out on getting the premium white interior on that car by a week.

I guess they could've had other colors of leather available after 2016...but grey went away in late 2016.

My June 2017 MX has real leather in black.

 

[Bill Price]

See for yourself... I would not have rejected delivery for a subset of these, but the whole accumulation scared me off (and I was so eager to drive it before inspecting it!...)

1. The whole front bumper was not correctly assembled.
2. Rocker panels not aligned on front; they aligned fine on the back - rocker panel not long enough?
3. Loose undercoats of the wheel wells (a plastic nut even fell from one of them), the cover of the trunk well also didn't fit (could not put it in place!).
4. Hood plastic not assembled (didn't try to put it in place, but maybe easy fix).
5. Taillights... omg where do I start... Excessive glue, dirt behind the taillight, left black cover not mounted properly (right one was OK), I almost could cut my finger with the exposed metal...
6. Interior was dirty (and they told me the car had just left the detailer)
7. Door seals were loose, you could almost take them off easily with a simple pinch.
8. And finally the overall quality of materials is much poorer than what I expected compared to my friend's 2017 Model S (pre-Raven), like the seats feel plastic instead of being leather; I guess I now know firsthand where the cut in prices comes from.

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I have three letters for you..........OMG!

 

[DanCar]

I’m a little confused here. Why has the MS LR+ not received a range bump but the MS Perf did?

Elon is keeping that ace up his sleeve until a competitor tries to tout / toot longer range than Model S.

 

[VikH]

Elon is keeping that ace up his sleeve until a competitor tries to tout / toot longer range than Model S.

I agree. I think he will update cars with H pack to 420 mile range too.