TomServo
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Just noticed the M3P is now reported to have a 303 mile EPA rating, UP from 292. Interesting development.
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While better than 292, 303 is disappointing - 2018 M3P was rated at 310.Just noticed the M3P is now reported to have a 303 mile EPA rating, UP from 292. Interesting development.
Get a spare set of efficiency wheels and tires and you will get 350+ miles of range. That is what I did.While better than 292, 303 is disappointing - 2018 M3P was rated at 310.
Sure the EPA is more a bit strict with their testing now, but there really hasn't been any substantial improvement to range in the past 6 years since the car came out.
While better than 292, 303 is disappointing - 2018 M3P was rated at 310.
Sure the EPA is more a bit strict with their testing now, but there really hasn't been any substantial improvement to range in the past 6 years since the car came out.
The older M3LR was EPA rated at 353. Even if we assume that it'd lose 30 miles of range with the new testing cycle, down to ~320, then even Tesla's newest, latest, and greatest still doesn't have that much improvement over years past.The test cycle changed for 2024 which gets the cars much closer to real world range. If the 24 M3P ran on the old test cycle it would have a higher EPA range than the prior years.
The MYP with no changes other than the new test cycle lost 24 miles of range.
No speed limit in the entire state of NC is greater than 70 mph. Each state is different. They rate it at a lower speed so that it is more applicable to the entire country instead of just one specific region.Epa range is a joke. It should be tested and advertised for real world range. For example distance at 35mph average (town) and at 75mph (highway).
75mph is illegal for more than 75% of the population so it's not that relevant for most.Epa range is a joke. It should be tested and advertised for real world range. For example distance at 35mph average (town) and at 75mph (highway).
It's the same car with the same battery and the same motors, the performance motor will arguably make it worse. The only real levers in the toolkit is software tweaks and the highland very SLIGHTLY improved aero.The older M3LR was EPA rated at 353. Even if we assume that it'd lose 30 miles of range with the new testing cycle, down to ~320, then even Tesla's newest, latest, and greatest still doesn't have that much improvement over years past.
No doubt.It's the same car with the same battery and the same motors, the performance motor will arguably make it worse. The only real levers in the toolkit is software tweaks and the highland very SLIGHTLY improved aero.
Big leaps forward will need new platforms which I am sure they are working on. This LR/M3P is the pinnacle of what is possible out of this platform
The car has also maintained its MSRP price or perhaps lower if accounting for inflation. It is clearly better in many other ways than range for its price point compared to previous years and that firmly qualifies it as forward progress.No doubt.
But that doesn't change that it's been 6 years and we're technically (on paper at least) going backwards and, at best, are living up to expectations of EPA range rather than having substantial leaps forward.
There is a time and place for speed and a time and place for range. I need to be able to do about 350 miles without charging but I also want the Performance just not at the same time. I will use the stock wheels and tires for the track and then a set of efficiency wheels and tires for the road trips I need to take every week.Who is paying attention to EPA range in an M3P? Drive it like you stole it, get 200 miles of range, and charge it back up. My Plaid is advertised at 395, shows 372, and gets about 200 with me beating on it, with somewhat close-to-advertised cruising down the freeway, None of my gas cars ever got the EPA range, especially with 85 Mph cruising speeds and a heavy foot. My Audi would say 360 miles every time I filled it up and would do 200-240 in reality.
While better than 292, 303 is disappointing - 2018 M3P was rated at 310.
Sure the EPA is more a bit strict with their testing now, but there really hasn't been any substantial improvement to range in the past 6 years since the car came out.
The 310 range number for the Performance model was never a real number. Tesla initially lumped the Performance model in range-wise with the Long Range at 310. But the differences of the original Performance model (bigger heavier wheels, stickier tires, heavier overall weight, etc) made them update the range to make it a more realistic 299 mi.
Did the older model range get adjusted in the car? I have a 2019 M3P with Performance pack. I don't recall my range being adjusted downward to 299 miles.No, they did update the older models and even changed it on the website (mine’s a 2018). Although, people were still calling out the older number, even long after.
I dont think it was ever adjusted in the car. I remember tesla changing it on the ordering website for people ordering new cars but I dont remember them adjusting anything in the car.Did the older model range get adjusted in the car? I have a 2019 M3P with Performance pack. I don't recall my range being adjusted downward to 299 miles.