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Also we know MobileEye is out, so it's unlikely they'd be part of this. So they need more processing for image recognition etc.
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The "forward thinking" of cable and harnesses been there may have less to do with the possibility of a retrofit than to minimize disruption on the assembly line, ie as soon as the new hardware is here there is minimal time needed to adjust. They may have done this for the S when they stopped the line to accomodate for the facelift and increase Xs output. Dream still alive though
My doors work better now than they did when I took delivery of the car, though it's going back in on Monday for the falling door issue (among other things). I didn't start off mesmerized really, I've just never been a fan. We're learning to work around the nuances of the doors but I still don't personally get much benefit, having kids that buckle themselves into the back seat and usually only kids riding in the 3rd row.@ohmman so your opinion about the FWD did no change over time, mesmerized but then not convinced of their value?
A little of both. After this next SC visit, I hope they're working "as designed". That will remove the issues with the doors popping and twanging, and with them falling on their own.@ohmman Doors working better after time spent in SC or through software update? Tesla just lend us one to try for a day today ; I can see the advantage with our little guy (he's 4) but yes for older kids not that much.
For those of you that purchased your X, what do you plan on doing once autopilot 2.0 is out along with a 100kwh battery?
1) Nothing
2) Retrofit, if it exist
3) Trade in immediately
4) Wait for a redesign, 3 years or so
For those of you that purchased your X, what do you plan on doing once autopilot 2.0 is out along with a 100kwh battery?
1) Nothing
2) Retrofit, if it exist
3) Trade in immediately
4) Wait for a redesign, 3 years or so
The article's premise was that retro fit seems most likely given the new findings in the video, i am wondering how easy would it be to retrofit a camera from the front bumper? Or perhaps go the Volvo way, sticking a camera right inside their logo on the hood.
That's why the car parks itself.Coming from an Infiniti with the around view monitor feature (4 cams on all sides: rear hatch, grille, and bottom of each rear view mirror - all 4 images stitched together with the car icon in the middle, right on the screen) I have to say I sorely miss this in my X75D. Being able to see all around the car when parking, I used to efforlessly park in the tightest of parallel spots (NYC) with my gigantic qx56 and most importantly, I could always see how close I was to the curb - both front and rear wheels, which is simply impossible with just the front/rear sensors, even if the mirrors tilt down in reverse - always worried I'll mess up sidewalls and rims.
It would be a very welcome feature on the future Teslas for me. Was actually hoping they'd do it on the X from the get go, but no such luck..
I honestly think this is this largest remaining feature gap that other brands do but Tesla doesn't.Coming from an Infiniti with the around view monitor feature (4 cams on all sides: rear hatch, grille, and bottom of each rear view mirror - all 4 images stitched together with the car icon in the middle, right on the screen) I have to say I sorely miss this in my X75D. Being able to see all around the car when parking, I used to efforlessly park in the tightest of parallel spots (NYC) with my gigantic qx56 and most importantly, I could always see how close I was to the curb - both front and rear wheels, which is simply impossible with just the front/rear sensors, even if the mirrors tilt down in reverse - always worried I'll mess up sidewalls and rims.
It would be a very welcome feature on the future Teslas for me. Was actually hoping they'd do it on the X from the get go, but no such luck..
That's why the car parks itself.
5. In order to "see" the spot, you have to be near that side. Which gives you a suboptimal angle in the first place for perpendicular.Yeah, that's been spotty for me - can't completely rely on autopark 100% of the time. A few things at play here:
1. Spot has to be between 2 cars for the prompt to trigger. If the empty spot for parallel parking is between a parked car and a hydrant - you're SOL it won't prompt for autopark. Similarly for perpendicular, has to be between 2 cars. I like to park at least 1 spot over from the nearest car so that the chances of getting a ding or a scratch on my beloved Tesla are minimized. Hence, most of the time for me engaging it in perpendicular spots it's useless, unless it's a real busy lot with very few spots. Even in those cases - see #2 below.
2. Car doesn't always see the spot - autopark prompting is spotty at best.
3. You have to completely pass the spot before it prompts, so if you are on a busy 1 way street with a sh!t ton of angry traffic behind you, no one will wanna wait for your autopark shenanigans - they will push up on you and you will have to keep driving forward, thereby loosing the spot. NYC driving/parking at its best!
4. Even perpendicular autopark leaves much to be desired - once every 15-20 times when I pull up to my driveway I'll get the prompt, and every time I engage autopark the car does a half assed attempt at trying to pull in. Most of the time it takes a couple of tries for it to steer into the driveway going back and forth a few times to adjust the approach angle. During this maneuvering it rolls out half way through the street and if there are cars coming up or down, I have to manually stop it, since my car does not see them and I don't wanna be clipped. The best, most fun part is when it says it's done - the car is sitting diagonally, half way into the driveway with the front well on the sidewalk, even a foot or so past it into the street.
TL;DR: Autopark is great, but not 100% consistent. Car has to learn and will certainly get better over time, plus software updates down the line should keep improving it, but as of now it can't be relied on 100% of the time. Still wishing for a 4-way cam system. Nifty party trick though - when autopark works, people are surely impressed!
I would love a HUD on my X. Driving a civic right now and test driven the BMW X5, driving both S and X, i constantly felt the need to see the information at my eye level, be it the speed or the navigation directions (civic doesn't show directions).I honestly think this is this largest remaining feature gap that other brands do but Tesla doesn't.
Normally I would agree but with all the attention and negative press about AP 1.0, I wonder if they would not go out of their way to retrofit older cars. It could be a liability if they did not, especially if AP 2.0 is significantly safer and eliminates some safety issues that were inherent in AP 1.0.I do not think Tesla will offer a retrofit. They seem to want you to trade in your current car and upgrade, so they keep coming up with carrots as inducement. I doubt they will change this M.O., but I suppose anything is possible.
The issue is that when AP 2.0 rolls out, I don't think it's the sensors that are going to be the limiting factor. Initially both AP 1.0 and 2.0 hardware will behave the same, and probably will do so for over a year. Perhaps a year after AP 2.0 rolls out, the software may catch up and begin to offer additional features that AP 1.0 vehicles won't be able to take advantage of.Normally I would agree but with all the attention and negative press about AP 1.0, I wonder if they would not go out of their way to retrofit older cars. It could be a liability if they did not, especially if AP 2.0 is significantly safer and eliminates some safety issues that were inherent in AP 1.0.
Also when people get a Beta of something, the expectation is that there will be a gold version available to replace it. I know that beta sw is not the same thing as a fully hw/sw solution like AP, but Tesla is the one that went there with this term.
AP yes, battery not so much for me. It would take a 140-150 kWh battery to make me salivate.After 6 months of ownership there are already advances in battery and AP tech which I would consider as substantial improvements in the car.