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Autopilot Engaged and Override
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MissyMcBee
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First of all, why were you driving AP in town and taking a turn? I drive through my town in AP but i also disengage before entering an intersection due to the 'unknown' conditions unless i know the light will stay green and I DON'T need to TURN.
My questions is why anyone would take a turn on AP in an intersection? I don't even know if AP understands the process of turning in an intersection?? Does anyone know? I know it knows how to follow the lines going forward but turning? ... that's a whole different ball game.
IMHO the OP has some splaining to do...
smatthew
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The OP probably talked to a lawyer that recommended not talking about this online anymore. Wouldn't want to spoil their potential lawsuit!
I would love to. I just got my car last week so still figuring it all out. How do I get the dash video recorded?
First of all, why were you driving AP in town and taking a turn? I drive through my town in AP but i also disengage before entering an intersection due to the 'unknown' conditions unless i know the light will stay green and I DON'T need to TURN.
My questions is why anyone would take a turn on AP in an intersection? I don't even know if AP understands the process of turning in an intersection?? Does anyone know? I know it knows how to follow the lines going forward but turning? ... that's a whole different ball game.
IMHO the OP has some splaining to do...
That is the problem that Tesla says they are going to look into. The autopilot had disengaged prior to coming to the intersection (due to the breaks being pressed), the car had recently come off an off-ramp. The question remains to why the autopilot reengaged.
chronopc
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Interesting, are you sure you didn't trigger the right stalk accidentally, when reaching for a blinker press?
Still would love to see those pictures. Even if most folks dont believe you, I accept that the programming of my Tesla is imperfect, so really want to know if there is a safety issue, of if this is a "Loose Nut" issue.
Still would love to see those pictures. Even if most folks dont believe you, I accept that the programming of my Tesla is imperfect, so really want to know if there is a safety issue, of if this is a "Loose Nut" issue.
V9 Dashcam, have you made it work?
For your particular case, I think a video from your phone would be better so that we can see and hear what's happening inside the car. The dashcam won't be helpful at all.
The attached images are the car as it is sitting in front of my house. I am still waiting for the police to send over pictures from the scene (I didn't take any as I had more important things to tend to).
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Thanks for having an open tone. This model’s blinkers are on the other side of the wheel so I don't think that could have been the case.
The tree was approximately 8 to 12 inches in diameter and the fence hit the whole front.
I'd estimate the speed to be 35 to 40 miles at impact although I swerved the car to avoid a full front collision.
chronopc
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Must have been a very small tree given how little damage there is in the front.
Here's what I think happened, because it happened to me (no accident, I reacted quickly and correctly but it scared the sh!t out of me). I theorize that EAP was turned on and they were following behind a car. Their upper speed limit for EAP was set much higher than what speed they were going because the car they were following behind was going much slower. They disengaged EAP using the break at some point, maybe while going around the turn, but TACC was not disengaged. For whatever reason, maybe because of the turn, TACC no longer sensed the car in front of them and started to increase speed back up to the upper limit that was set when EAP was engaged.
I had this exact same thing happen to me while going around a curve. I was guilty of using EAP in an area I shouldn't have been. I was playing around with the feature because the car was very new to me. When I got to a turn I hit the break because EAP was taking me around it a little too quick. The moment I let off the break (EAP was now off) my car rapidly sped up. I glanced at the screen and quickly realized TACC was still on. Thankfully I was able to break in time and turn sharply because I was soon going around a pretty sharp turn at above 50 mph on a 30 mph road.
This is what I would guess happened to OP.
I had this exact same thing happen to me while going around a curve. I was guilty of using EAP in an area I shouldn't have been. I was playing around with the feature because the car was very new to me. When I got to a turn I hit the break because EAP was taking me around it a little too quick. The moment I let off the break (EAP was now off) my car rapidly sped up. I glanced at the screen and quickly realized TACC was still on. Thankfully I was able to break in time and turn sharply because I was soon going around a pretty sharp turn at above 50 mph on a 30 mph road.
This is what I would guess happened to OP.
I have to admit sheepishly that I have triggered TACC accidentally with a single downward push of the AP control stalk, so I know it can happen. Luckily I was stopped with my foot on the brake, if not I would have lurched unexpectedly. You wouldnt be the first to trigger TACC when looking for the wipers either.
chronopc
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That is impressive if you hit the car at that speed and that's the extent of the damage. From the look of the picture, in a normal car, it would have taken less than 15 mph to do that type of damage and it wouldn't have been severe enough for the airbag to deploy.
Pressing the brake disables both EAP and TACC. Turning the steering wheel will disable EAP but leaves TACC active.
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