mmccord
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You mean this part?
"Warning: Autosteer is intended for use only on highways and limited-access roads with a fully attentive driver."
Certainly you didn't miss this part?
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You mean this part?
"Warning: Autosteer is intended for use only on highways and limited-access roads with a fully attentive driver."
I don't have that speed restriction yet but when I do I predict it will suck and take even more away from autopilot.
The nags are WAY too frequent already on surface streets (where I have found it to be very usable), and restricting us to the speed limit will make it unusable. Definitely will make me an unhappy camper.
You asked for my opinion. My opinion is that using AP1 on non-divided roads that have hills is horribly dangerous at any speed. Is it just my car? Cresting a hill, the car loses the lane markings and immediately veers into oncoming traffic. Instant death if there is a car coming the other way. I would NEVER use it.
No, I'm pretty sure it was directed at me (he quoted my post and all). The difference is: I'm ignoring something in the manual because I have tested it myself and find it safe. He is ignoring something in the manual and calling the entire feature-set unsafe. He called it 'Instant death' and said that he would 'never use it'. I, for one, am glad he won't use this feature, because he seems unable to grasp the concept of using it safely.
It seems that so far the vast majority of Tesla owners are willing to accept anything Tesla does. Tesla has been given a free pass to ignore promises made before delivery, and remove functionality at will, and they have used it repeatedly with almost nobody saying a word.
And good on them for doing it too! Keep it up Tesla. please do! I love reading the rationalizations for why all the new limits are either a) a good thing, or b) not a big deal.I also believe that the addition of the speed limit restriction on non-divided roads does not render AP useless on such roads. AP still excels in stop-and-go traffic on such roads, and is a major convenience in such situations. Plus, stop-and-go traffic is the situation where AP most closely approaches true hands-free driving, as the hands-on-the-wheel requirements are nearly non-existent at low speeds.
The zero-above limit was the last straw for me. I will probably not voluntarily update ever again.I want to see if there is actually a point at which people will actually get fed up, is there a straw that will break the camel's back?
Oh don't worry, Tesla has ways of dealing with that. Ask anyone who tried to stay on 6.2 or 7.0 after the 7.1 rollout. It didn't take long for Tesla to disable their maps and voice control to force an update. Even among those who refused that, several were "accidentally" updated at service centres despite promises not to do so, and there was just no possible way to undo those accidental updates.The zero-above limit was the last straw for me. I will probably not voluntarily update ever again.
And good on them for doing it too! Keep it up Tesla. please do! I love reading the rationalizations for why all the new limits are either a) a good thing, or b) not a big deal.
It's actually neither. No regulator in the world has asked for this, we know because regulators aren't in the habit of hiding such things.I honestly don't know what part of this is regulator based and what part is intentional obsolescence to generate sales.
Oh don't worry, Tesla has ways of dealing with that. Ask anyone who tried to stay on 6.2 or 7.0 after the 7.1 rollout. It didn't take long for Tesla to disable their maps and voice control to force an update. Even among those who refused that, several were "accidentally" updated at service centres despite promises not to do so, and there was just no possible way to undo those accidental updates.
If you don't update yourself, and don't take it to a service centre, it will stay on the current version forever. That said, there's no guarantee that what you want will still work. I STRONGLY suspect that supercharging will be removed from all pre 8.0 cars in the very near future (as part of the change to pay per use supercharging)I could actually do without voice and maps, if it came to that. I wonder what would happen if the sim card were just removed? Would that freeze my version? I would prefer crippling the car in my own, predictable way rather than watching it happen slowly, helplessly.
On 7.1 I can drive with no restrictions at all. I can do nothing to help on 8.0, and from my discussions with other fully rooted users, none of them can either.And @green1, how for did you get with rooting the car? Can you undo any of this?