Car & Driver: The Mach E is simply better than the Model Y

[john5520]

Mach-E GT on the Autobahn:

Even a regular station wagon was able to pass it with no problems.

 

[alexgr]

Mach-E GT on the Autobahn:

Even a regular station wagon was able to pass it with no problems.

200 km/h maximum speed on Autobahn ist scheisse. I made it to 200 in Germany in a mundane 1992 Opel Vectra, and I was a slow one on the road. Who knew, that now, 30 years later, you need a Mustang GT at about $70 grands to beat that marvel of GM-Opel collaboration. EVERY German must see that video before placing an order with Ford!

 

[thesmokingman]

Watch the power meter in the cluster, it's pretty freaking sad.

 

[MontyFloyd]

Watch the power meter in the cluster, it's pretty freaking sad.

What part of cluster? What should I look for?

 

[thesmokingman]

What part of cluster? What should I look for?

 

[MontyFloyd]

So the number that showed about 200 klm range?

 

[thesmokingman]

So the number that showed about 200 klm range?

The bar with the lightning bolt is what you're looking for. It's kind of weird though but when its full and extends all the way to the right that is full power. It doesn't last long and then it shows the throttling.

 

[MontyFloyd]

The bar with the lightning bolt is what you're looking for. It's kind of weird though but when its full and extends all the way to the right that is full power. It doesn't last long and then it shows the throttling.

That is Watts being delivered to the motor?
I can see some brief moments it was full (100%?), most of time it was 50%, and other times it was near 0%

 

[thesmokingman]

That is Watts being delivered to the motor?
I can see some brief moments it was full (100%?), most of time it was 50%, and other times it was near 0%

Yea, its power throttling. It will only give 100% for a few seconds then bam, throttle city.

 

[raptor5244]

You have to love all the software limiting on EVs. Power is not the only issue, they limit the stability, traction control, torque, top speed, etc. In the future if/when we are able to crack the tune and dial back in some of the driving fun your warranty will be void. Fun times.

 

[RobDickinson]

Yeah sure

 

[30seconds]

Well I guess we now know about how long all the marketing dollars will help a major advertiser cover up a sub-standard product.

Or is it nicer if I say mislead customers during a product launch?

Tested: 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Excites but Falls Short

Ford's top Mustang EV doesn't quite deliver the range and performance we expect from a GT model.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[john5520]

Well I guess we now know about how long all the marketing dollars will help a major advertiser cover up a sub-standard product.

Or is it nicer if I say mislead customers during a product launch?

Tested: 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Excites but Falls Short

Ford's top Mustang EV doesn't quite deliver the range and performance we expect from a GT model.

www.caranddriver.com

They had to come clean as the issues were becoming widely known. But yes, they absolutely mislead their enthusiast customers. The average Joe has no clue what 'trap speed' means.

 

[thesmokingman]

 

[john5520]

Another Autobahn test. After the usual gushing over the interior and suspension, he took it out for the test drive:

He didn't mince words.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Another Autobahn test. After the usual gushing over the interior and suspension, he took it out for the test drive:

He didn't mince words.

Wow, really shows how major the issue is. 100-200 km/h (62-124mph) takes a whopping 54 seconds, slower than even a 143 hp Up GTI. And that's when the car doesn't power limit before it reaches 200 (it did power limit in that video). And it's funny seeing a Skoda diesel walk the Mach-E during a successful 200km/h test.

As a sanity check, they also tested a M3P, and there were no such issues (100-200 km/h in 11.3 seconds, 200-250 19.2 seconds, top speed 262 km/h), so this is a Mach-E issue, not something to do with EVs in general (as some in the comments try to claim):

 

[thesmokingman]

I'm roflmao right now.

"It's the slowest car we've ever tested on the autobahn!"

 

[geekfam]

Can you imagine the recall if this was Tesla. Instead, not a peep with tons of these reports over on the mme forum.

Unable to shift - Please stop Safely (A complete write up)

 

[thesmokingman]

Can you imagine the recall if this was Tesla. Instead, not a peep with tons of these reports over on the mme forum.

Unable to shift - Please stop Safely (A complete write up)

To be fair, Teslas spontaneously fail to operate too. The question is how often it happens which is unknown. The posters there surmised that it must be the 12v battery, but it should not be failing on a presumably new-newish car. That's a problem. Other than that... tow company fails.

If you want fail regarding the Mach-E, try the issues with their TC.

Ford Mach-E May Go Crazy If You Stop Traction Control When Slippery

Owners are reporting that after they disabled traction control to either have fun or just drive on slippery surfaces, the car started showing many errors.

insideevs.com

Report: Disabling Traction Control In Your Mustang Mach-E Causes it to 'Freak Out'

Mustang Mach-E drivers are experiencing a cascade of error messages popping up after turning off traction control and spinning the tires in snow, icy conditions, or just hooning doing burnouts.

www.motorbiscuit.com

 

[stopcrazypp]

Can you imagine the recall if this was Tesla. Instead, not a peep with tons of these reports over on the mme forum.

Unable to shift - Please stop Safely (A complete write up)

Reading the account, I'm more scared that the tow companies refusing to tow an EV may extend to Teslas. It was reported widely in EV circles of the Mach E examples having batteries damaged because the tow driver didn't know where to hook the car.

As for the actual issue, if it's from a dead 12V that's not as big a deal, although it's unusual for a new car like that to have a dead 12V so soon.