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Double vision (ghosting) at night through windshield?

Discussion in 'Model X: Interior & Exterior' started by rmiggins, Jan 19, 2016.

  1. MasterT

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    I've got my original windshield replaced, which had severe ghosting, with a 1105964-00-B model and all ghosting is completely gone. 100% solution
     
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  2. bak_phy

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    Did they agree to do it for free due to ghosting?

    Has anyone had the ghosting on an AP1 car fixed?
     
  3. MasterT

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    Yes, Tesla replaced it under warranty because I mentioned ghosting
     
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    My AP1 X is in for annual service today, and I asked them to check it out (I've mentioned it every time I've been in before, but never had anything done). They said they haven't really heard anything (SLC isn't exactly a huge Tesla market), but they need to use their laser measuring thing to see if it's out of tolerance before they'll do anything anyway. We'll see...
     
  5. bak_phy

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    Everything that I've read on this forum tells me that the laser pointy thingy is BS. It just measures the image separation. Not the strength of it which is the real issue.
    Unfortunately I haven't heard of any windshield fixes for AP1 cars. :(
     
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    Correct! When using the image separation test, technicians only notice the second image which is always inside the circle. If they bothered to look for the third image they would notice that it is outside the circle on the "H" windshields. The fact that the third image is visible should be an automatic fail.
     
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    Well, I got a call back, and my windshield did fail the laser test. So I get a new windshield. It's not the part number mentioned earlier, because that's for AP2 cars, but it is the latest AP1 windshield, and he said they've been having good luck with it. Even if it doesn't fix the ghosting, I had enough rock chips in it at 25k miles, I won't complain either way. Except I got another call, saying they made a mistake cutting the old one out - and cut through the protective tape and into the paint on my A pillar! Uh oh! They're gonna take care of it whatever they need to do (take it to a body shop and re-paint, and re-wrap), but it'll probably be a few extra days. At least I was lucky enough to have a Model X loaner this time.
     
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  8. bak_phy

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    Shows what I know. Sorry to hear about your a-pillar. Hopefully it won't take too long to fix. Please lets us know how the wind shield turned out ASAP. I'm taking mine in for yearly service soon and perhaps I should have them look at replacing the windshield after all.
     
  9. ccutrer

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    It took one day extra - they just ended up using touch up paint and buffing it. And honestly, I couldn't tell you where they scratched my paint. He sent a picture, and turns out I thought the glare was the scratch - I didn't see the actual scratch!

    Anyhow, I just took my first night drive with the new windshield. While, it's not 100% perfect, it is very very significantly better. It just looks like blooming now, instead of distinct, stacked images. To the point that I was having a hard time and double checking to tell if it was the windshield causing it, or just my normal night vision (blooming of bright lights can be a permanent symptom after you've had LASIK). It's interesting that with the old windshield, the ghosts were stacked vertically, above the real image, and with significant spacing. With this windshield, the rare spots that I could see ghosting (mostly only on neon street signs, when high beams were on), the single ghost is just barely down and to the left. Overall, I'm very satisfied. And just a quick shout-out of how good of service I receive at the SLC service center! They definitely go above and beyond.
     
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  10. bak_phy

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    What was the part number?
     
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    Windshield replaced by Tesla and it's perfect! After a 1.5 years of ghosting it's finally gone and I'm doing the happy dance!
     
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  12. mikevbf

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    Congratulations! What part number is your ap1 windshield?
     
  13. ccutrer

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    That bottom line is a bit illegible - it’s 1106012-0-A.
     

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  15. bak_phy

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    This is great news! Is the windshield clearer as well now? On mine it always looks like I'm looking through a slight haze because the ghost images blurs things.
     
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    I am curious if this is un-intended prism effect caused by curvatures of the inside vs. outside of the windshield. This is used in eyeglasses to correct lazy eye, but sometimes is accidentally put into lenses, which can cause headaches, distortion, etc. I am getting my X soon, and this concerns me.
    prism.jpg
     
  17. bak_phy

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    I believe that the consensus is that it's an internal reflection in the glass possibly caused by a coating.
     
  18. bak_phy

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    My current part number for the AP1 windshield which DOES have ghosting is

    1066747-01-B
     
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    I just got mine fixed as well. I had 1066747-01-B with bad ghosting. It was replaced with 1106012-00-A. I have an AP1 Model X.
     
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    How well did this work?
     

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