mspohr
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Most of the destruction is happening in the developed world where most of the fossil fuel and meat consumption takes place.
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In many places in the world the rivers are open sewers dumping their waste into the oceans.
The oceans are dealing with environment collapse from over fishing and virtually all of that comes from the developing world (or people selling fish from factory trawlers to those populations).
My sister is a Geologist and I've had an amateur interest for much of my life. The Earth has been much warmer than it is now and life continues just fine when it's warmer. A lot of human cities may end up underwater, but vast stretches of Canada and Siberia will become farmable. A disaster for humans in many ways, but life would go on. Most of the non-hominids around today were here during the last warm spell which ended 2 million years ago.
Life could be set back a billion years if the oceans die. The last time that happened was the Permian Extinction
Permian–Triassic extinction event - Wikipedia
Human activity isn't even a tiny fraction of the damage done by the Siberian Traps eruptions. Hot spot volcanoes on a continental land mass usually screw up the environment in a big way. The only one in the world right now has the Rocky Mountains plugging it (Yellowstone). When that hot spot was in Oregon it messed up the world's climate.
We have knocked many ecosystems out of balance because humans needed more space and more resources. Madagascar used to be solid jungle but now it's mostly gone. One of the driving factors in deforestation in Brazil is cattle farming, but in many other areas it happened to accommodate more people and subsistence farms to keep them alive..
mspohr
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The developing world doesn't run factory trawlers. They send little boats out a short distance and bring back a few fish for the locals. Factory trawlers are run by large developed countries to feed their own cities.
Which is why I added: "(or people selling fish from factory trawlers to those populations)"
I can't find the original story, but in 2013 Ivan MacFadyen was ferrying a yacht from Australia to Japan, and then took another one to the US. His story was a stark picture of how bad the Pacific from the last time he had ferried a yacht in 2003. It's been close to another 10 years since that story. I found this synopsis
The Ocean Is Broken: A Sailor's Account Of His Journey To The Sea
In the Coral Sea they came across a Malaysian factory trawler.
The biggest operator of factory ships is China though
'They will be back': How China's 'dark' fleets are plundering the world's oceans
We need to move away from fossil fuels as well as develop protein sources that are more sustainable, but we can't ignore the vast masses of people in other parts of the world who are going to do anything to feed their people even if it causes severe damage to their future survival chances.
mspohr
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Factory trawlers don't sell their catch in developing countries. It goes to developed countries.
Factory trawlers strip mine the ocean.
Developing countries have small boats that go out locally for a day and fish sustainability.
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Analysis: Musk tests limits of governance by having children with aide
Elon Musk's decision to have children with one of his top executives at Neuralink pushed the limits of corporate governance norms, according to nine corporate governance experts.
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"Zilis, 36, has since told some of her colleagues that she was not involved romantically with Musk, 51, and conceived the children with him through in vitro fertilization (IVF), according to five people familiar with the situation.": This totally destroyed the narrative that Musk is some sort of sex predator.
JRP3
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That always seemed the likely case but still creates an HR issue. Maybe part of an employee bonus plan, though clearly sexist 
jabloomf1230
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I wonder if there is a potential lucrative market for SpermX?Analysis: Musk tests limits of governance by having children with aide
Elon Musk's decision to have children with one of his top executives at Neuralink pushed the limits of corporate governance norms, according to nine corporate governance experts.
"Zilis, 36, has since told some of her colleagues that she was not involved romantically with Musk, 51, and conceived the children with him through in vitro fertilization (IVF), according to five people familiar with the situation.": This totally destroyed the narrative that Musk is some sort of sex predator.
Analysis: Musk tests limits of governance by having children with aide
Elon Musk's decision to have children with one of his top executives at Neuralink pushed the limits of corporate governance norms, according to nine corporate governance experts.
"Zilis, 36, has since told some of her colleagues that she was not involved romantically with Musk, 51, and conceived the children with him through in vitro fertilization (IVF), according to five people familiar with the situation.": This totally destroyed the narrative that Musk is some sort of sex predator.
That... is somehow even worse. That sounds even more bizarre than just having an affair.
Buckminster
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Not when you understand Elon:
Elon's genes combined with Zilis (who is coming towards the end of her best child rearing years) = clever squared which is what will be needed. This kind of stuff won't be that unusual in 10 years.
I'm not sure how much intelligence you can reasonably ascribe to Mr. Musk. Currently his most pressing goal in life is to not spend 45 billion on twitter. Most people have already achieved that.
It's not remotely bad, let alone worse, and it's a lot less bizarre than getting sperm donation from a facebook group:
mspohr
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I would wager it’s not a common procedure with your own employees. But perhaps the organization I work for is mired in convention.
It's just that... Usually it's done by couples where there's some medical reason that necessitates it or by women looking for top quality genes or something.
An employee does that with her boss? Does she think she can bear the electric kwizatz haderach?
An employee does that with her boss? Does she think she can bear the electric kwizatz haderach?
God forbid she thought his genes are top quality, just because you think Elon Musk is a nobody doesn't mean everybody else thought so as well.
heavyD
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LOL top quality genes. She would have been better off using Brad Pitt's sperm so the boy would have a chance of being handsome and having hair on his head past his 20's. The environment a child is brought up has as much to do with his/her intelligence as genes.
JRP3
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When Elon was in better shape he was fairly good looking by most standards, and hair can be replaced, obviously.
heavyD
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If you have to add a rug or plastic surgery after the fact then how good are the genes in the first place? You want to combine something like a top athlete with a top nerd. Two top nerds will likely yield a lesser nerds.
JRP3
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Hair loss is not the biggest concern for some. These days even people with good hair shave their heads sometimes.
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