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Elon thinks those that pre-ordered Model3 pre reveal will see cars before 2018

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Keep in mind that Tesla is increasing manufacturing capacity dramatically in Fremont.

Tesla’s Fremont factory could manufacture up to 1 million vehicles per year, says Musk

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There is No Way they can make 100K next year, let alone 200K. July, '17 is the deadline for suppliers. Assume 3 months from that date to mass production. That leaves only 3 months left in the calendar year.

Musk said 100K to 200K. If you take the median number 150K, that means they need to do 150K units in Q4 next year. That run-rate is more than the run-rate they are aiming for in 2018. How is that possible?

I understand we are all a bit delusional when it comes to Muski'sms, but not this deranged. If they hit say around 20-25K next year, that will be a phenomenal achievement, and I would take that as Tesla being in the right track for world domination.

I think that you may have missed the fact that Musk has asserted they are moving up the time-table. Thus, instead of aiming for between 100k to 200K cars in 2018, they are aiming for 500K. So no, the 100K Musk is talking about in 2017 is not a greater run rate than they intend for 2018.
 
Musk's statement was that he hoped for 100k in 2017. You are assuming that is in one quarter. Regardless, it's not out of line even if it were. Only if you assume 200k cars in one quarter is it out of line, and that would absolutely be an assumption and little more.


Not sure how people got hung up on 1 quarter.


I think it's safe to assume that if Tesla and their suppliers can meet the July 1, 2017 mark, then we're talking about 1 3/4-2 quarters of production.
 
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Not sure how people got hung up on 1 quarter.


I think it's safe to assume that if Tesla and their suppliers can meet the July 1, 2017 mark, then we're talking about 1 3/4-2 quarters of production.

Wasn't the quote about volume production by July 1? I took this as meaning the suppliers would be producing parts that would flow into the factory months before that and then hit the deadline with capability, not necessarily volume of goods flowing in.

It's not going to be June 30 nothing and then July 1 25,000 tyres, 25,000 windscreens.
 
It only has the following info:

Model 3 Order Number RNxxxxxx Reserved

Then when I click on View Profile it just says Model 3 RNxxxxxx

Thanks for the help


Posting your full RN is bad. I recommend taking it down ASAP. It is a random string of numbers, but this particular string of numbers is yours. don't show it again until you hear from Tesla.
 
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I ordered during the announcement, probably around 120k-140k range. I live in the midwest. I know Elon has said they will deliver west coast preorders first. Does that mean that anyone that lives in California that orders a model 3 between now and release date will get their model 3 before me, or does that just pertain to the early preorders?
 
It looks to me like the 100,000-200,000 units of Model 3 by the end of 2017 and the 500,000 units a year from the Fremont factory for 2018 are both the same goal but with one having an earlier time table. Assuming a production starts August 1, 2017 with a very quick two month ramp up I could see the following.

Average 7,500 cars a week Model 3 production (8,000 max)
Quarter Production Total
Q3 2017 14,900 14,900 (two month ramp up)
Q4 2017 97,500 112,400
Q1 2018 97,500 209,900
Q2 2018 97,500 307,400
Q3 2018 97,500 404,900
Q4 2018 97,500 502,400

The biggest problem I see is money. Everything below will require a large amounts of money in 2016 and 2017. I doubt Telsa can get unsecured loans due to its credit rating. I can easily see Telsa requiring a stock offering twice the size of the one they did back in August of 2015. The problem is I don't see fund managers wanting to double or triple down on Telsa.

By Q3 2017

Fremont factory capable of producing 8,000 Model 3 a week (total production of 10,000 cars a week or 500,000 a year).
Gigafactory and/or Panasonic 0.54 GWh of Model 3 batteries a week (27 GWh a year just for the Model 3).

By the end of 2017

Double the superchargers (~3,600 stalls).
Quadruple the destination chargers (~11,300 units).
New Stores, Galleries and Service Centers (~225 locations).
More inventory to support the above.

For the Model 3 to succeed none of the above can be cut and in fact some of it may not be enough.
 
It would have been really good if Tesla could have given out our reservation queue position considered as a single queue and normalized in time across the world. At least that gives us some idea where exactly we were when we ordered.

Of course this information is not useful beyond that but at least will give us some hope based on an official number.