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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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What’s starting to annoy me a bit is octopus giving me a large window to charge and constantly stop/starting the charge leaving me with less than required.

Last night I was given 22:30-05:30 with no breaks, but checking charging history last night, I charged 22:30-02:36, then it started again at 03:45 until 04:30 and just stayed there.

Wonder why they aren’t charging the whole window? Or at least charging enough to get me to the required state of charge (which could have been done if they’d used the whole window)
 
What’s starting to annoy me a bit is octopus giving me a large window to charge and constantly stop/starting the charge leaving me with less than required.

Last night I was given 22:30-05:30 with no breaks, but checking charging history last night, I charged 22:30-02:36, then it started again at 03:45 until 04:30 and just stayed there.

Wonder why they aren’t charging the whole window? Or at least charging enough to get me to the required state of charge (which could have been done if they’d used the whole window)
The whole point of the tariff for "them", is matching demand to the supply of distributed energy assets.

If it was just another GO tariff with a fixed off-peak window, it wouldn't be "intelligent"
 
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Has anyone else had issues with IO not charging?

We got a schedule last night as usual, car was on 60% when plugged in and this morning had only charged for about 9 minutes according to teslafi.

I’ve just forced a new schedule this morning by adjusting to 100% charge, it’s given a new schedule for most of today (thanks OE) and is charging.

Thankfully we don’t need the range today but I wondered if this was something to do with yesterday’s Tesla update. We needed full for the weekend but can’t see that happening now (granny charger), so will have to Supercharge unnecessarily tonight on route.
 
Thanks, I’ll give this a go later using the 7.4kW generic charger and see if it makes a difference. Wondering now if it was indeed the 11kW version that was onboarded - would certainly make a lot of sense!
I was about to offer the same tip. There's a 7kW Andersen A2 entry as well (I also have an Andersen), but I think you have to delete the car and charger and set it all up again from scratch. The generic 7.4kW should work if you prefer that of course.

If you did select the 3ph variant by mistake, this could easily cause the short charge window issues you're seeing.

I'm one of the lucky ones who really doesn't have a problem with IO scheduling. Occasionally it falls 1% short, but in my case that's clearly to do with the battery temperature and the 1% comes right back once the battery warms up.
 
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Just noticed it’s turned off again after 6 minutes. Checked the charge schedule and we are still in a scheduled window. I’ve manually started it from the car now to see what happens.
Have been using IO without issues for months. Starting this week, IO always stop charging once the car reaches 55%, even though charge schedule is assigned and we are within it. If I manually start the charge, it is turned off by IO within minutes.
 
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I was about to offer the same tip. There's a 7kW Andersen A2 entry as well (I also have an Andersen), but I think you have to delete the car and charger and set it all up again from scratch. The generic 7.4kW should work if you prefer that of course.

If you did select the 3ph variant by mistake, this could easily cause the short charge window issues you're seeing.

I'm one of the lucky ones who really doesn't have a problem with IO scheduling. Occasionally it falls 1% short, but in my case that's clearly to do with the battery temperature and the 1% comes right back once the battery warms up.
Thanks for the info. I deleted the car and charger from the Octopus app and have set up everything from scratch. There is indeed the option of 7.4kW or 11kW when selecting the Andersen A2. I double checked I selected the 7.4kW version this time just in case!

Only done one charge so far which seemed to work all as planned but will keep an eye on things over the next few days. Next option if it’s still not resolved will be to try the generic 7.4kW option and go from there. Thanks for the advice :)
 
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Have been using IO without issues for months. Starting this week, IO always stop charging once the car reaches 55%, even though charge schedule is assigned and we are within it. If I manually start the charge, it is turned off by IO within minutes.
Yes, same here. My problems started this week. Plugged in last night with 50%, need car for long trip today so everything set to 100%. OE gave me a charge schedule from 8pm to 8:30am. Just checked and it turned off after 6 minutes. Every time it try and start charge it’s turned back off. So now I have to find a supercharger before starting our planned journey.

The only way I’ve managed to maintain charging is to turn off the smart charging in the OE app. But of course I’ve now lost the schedule so am paying premium rate for charging.
 
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Yes, same here. My problems started this week. Plugged in last night with 50%, need car for long trip today so everything set to 100%. OE gave me a charge schedule from 8pm to 8:30am. Just checked and it turned off after 6 minutes. Every time it try and start charge it’s turned back off. So now I have to find a supercharger before starting our planned journey.

The only way I’ve managed to maintain charging is to turn off the smart charging in the OE app. But of course I’ve now lost the schedule so am paying premium rate for charging.
I have been in exactly the same position in having to use a supercharger before a long journey. So if you really need the power, turn off IO and set a schedule in your car to start charging at 23:30. Beyond that if I don't need the charge I'm happy to let IO do it's thing. But I really would like to find a definitive reason why its not charging properly by experimenting with the settings and monitoring the results. I suspect that there may be some issue with the Tesla API but it seems to work fine for some people and the issues I see seem to be not reliably repeatable.
 
Just switched to IO and got better rates than expected, fixed till next year!
I was expecting 42p peak and 10p off-peak.

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Yes, same here. My problems started this week. Plugged in last night with 50%, need car for long trip today so everything set to 100%. OE gave me a charge schedule from 8pm to 8:30am. Just checked and it turned off after 6 minutes. Every time it try and start charge it’s turned back off. So now I have to find a supercharger before starting our planned journey.

The only way I’ve managed to maintain charging is to turn off the smart charging in the OE app. But of course I’ve now lost the schedule so am paying premium rate for charging.
I ended up solving the issue by using "Disconnect device" in the Octopus app and then set it up from scratch again. Using "Reconnect device" did not work. Now the charging behaviour is back to normal.