Gizmotoy
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Explain? You mean they don't show music on the instruction panel anymore??
Correct. One of the leaked screenshots shows all of the available instrument panel apps, and media isn't among them.
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Explain? You mean they don't show music on the instruction panel anymore??
Correct. One of the leaked screenshots shows all of the available instrument panel apps, and media isn't among them.
Clearly, there is a media app. Has to be, or are we going to just listen to the wind and road?Correct. One of the leaked screenshots shows all of the available instrument panel apps, and media isn't among them.
Clearly, there is a media app. Has to be, or are we going to just listen to the wind and road?
Expanding on the above explanation:The wheel can't detect anything, but the power steering system most definitely can detect any mass on the wheel as it has a torque sensor in the steering shaft. All it has to do is move the shaft and the torque sensor (with a little math) will tell them how heavy your hand is even if it's not moving. This is also how some other systems work, which is why taping something like a drink can to the wheel was able to "fake it out".
I understood the screenshot differently -- those are the new / updated apps, not necessarily the only ones available.
Yep, this. Almost certainly the list has just the new/changed ones. They would have no reason to get rid of the media app on the driver's console.
Beta 2 released, leak photo and release note - seems that we have individual tire pressure display at startup plus other improvement.
Tesla releases second version of its beta v7.0 software update with Autopilot [Updated] | Electrek
Looks like someone is about to be disinvited from the Early Access Program with this violation of the NDA.
Looks like someone is about to be disinvited from the Early Access Program with this violation of the NDA.
So let me get this right. The only way to display the ambient temp is to place a ginormous analog clock that takes up half of the IC screen real estate? I must be missing something.
Could still be on the 17", right? After all, currently the outside temperature is shown on both the console and the touchscreen. Seems a bit redundant if you ask me.
Whatever it is, it's still a really crappy interface.
I still can't believe we're losing all this information from the lower status bar (time/date/temp, etc) and instead have this grade-school clock display taking up one of two valuable spots.
Correct. "apps" is what Elon promised us two years ago. These are the core components of the Human-Machine-Interface that the driver needs to safely control this car.Also, what's all this "app" crap?!!? Those aren't "apps". They are information displays.
HEAR! HEAR!All I can say is some marketing muckity-muck that knows NOTHING about UIs got into the software development department at tesla and really FUBAR'd this thing . "Oh, I know! Let's call them 'APPS' and remove all this information that's cluttering things up". What happened to Trip A and Trip B? I use them ALL THE TIME in the dashboard -- I DON'T want to look over to the touch-screen to see them.
I'm right there with you. The fact that you can only get auto-steer with this is a pity, but the trade-off here is clear for me. No more firmware updates after 6.2 on my car.If this is the interface that my P85+ gets, all I can say is "FU" Tesla, because that's what they're saying to me with this new interface. "Screw you and what you actually want, we're going to tell you what you want and force it upon you with no choice". Way to go Tesla.
Exactly. Very well put.Not looking forward to the new interface if it is anything like the leaked pictures. The current speedometer center display is genius -- tons of information displayed in a clear, concise manor that puts other car UIs to shame. The orange/green arcs for power and regen are essential pieces of information, so it really upsets me to see that the new version will (re)move this information, and substantially reduce the clarity of the meter by removing the scale.
As I said, I will reject further firmware updates. And I will be VERY unhappy if Tesla were to force this crap UI into my car.Never thought I would be worried about a software update -- they are usually sources of happiness, but this one is looking like it could be a disaster (clock "app", removal of essential+clearly displayed info, car graphic, etc.). Looks like an all around poorly designed interface. Which is shocking to me as the existing UI is so strong. I really hope this isn't the final form. The non-UI updates look nice, even for a classic P85 like mine, but I won't be updating if the new UI is like these leaked images. I'm gonna try not to worry, as the final details aren't known yet, but a seed of doubt has been placed in my mind.
Agree completely. Very concerned with this new design direction that seems intended to dumb down the interface. The current speedo/power use indicator is a marvel of informative design, the beta design appears meant to make someone renting the car at the airport feel like he's back in his Camry. And that clock...my God. The idea that 1/3 of my main screen needs to be occupied by the time and clock........Not looking forward to the new interface if it is anything like the leaked pictures. The current speedometer center display is genius -- tons of information displayed in a clear, concise manor that puts other car UIs to shame. The orange/green arcs for power and regen are essential pieces of information, so it really upsets me to see that the new version will (re)move this information, and substantially reduce the clarity of the meter by removing the scale. Really the first tick is 75kW? That is pretty much useless. So much so that it would impede my ability to use my car on a significant amount of my driving that requires careful energy monitoring.
Never thought I would be worried about a software update -- they are usually sources of happiness, but this one is looking like it could be a disaster (clock "app", removal of essential+clearly displayed info, car graphic, etc.). Looks like an all around poorly designed interface. Which is shocking to me as the existing UI is so strong. I really hope this isn't the final form. The non-UI updates look nice, even for a classic P85 like mine, but I won't be updating if the new UI is like these leaked images. I'm gonna try not to worry, as the final details aren't known yet, but a seed of doubt has been placed in my mind.
His styling themes have generated intense controversy among automotive designers, and have had a polarizing effect with respect to their visual cues. Bangle acknowledges that his designs do not look good in photographs, suggesting to critics that they should see the cars in real life before judging them on their looks.
and is probably the first time Deconstructivism has been adapted to automotive design.
Bangle aggressively defended his designs against criticism. He was supported by the BMW board of directors, who wanted to move BMW's image into the future. He said it was necessary for product lines to follow a cycle of a revolutionary generation followed by an evolutionary generation followed by another revolutionary generation and so on.
Marc Newson, an industrial designer and car enthusiast, described Bangle's BMW Z4 as having been designed with a machete.[18]
Patrick le Quément, chief designer at Renault, said: "[Bangle is] certainly the most talked about designer. His designs have a great deal of presence, and they're well proportioned. He's been highly influential. My only concern is his use of concave surfaces: they're hollow shapes and lack that tightly muscled look I feel helps design."