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powertoold
Active Member
Ya, I mean the crosswalk lines that act as stop lines for traffic lights lol
In 10.0.1 they were still zaggy and unstable
Not really sure what this means in terms of progress -- why were the lines zaggy and unstable before and now are better? Is this a cosmetic change or are we thinking the system is detecting lines differently?
powertoold
Active Member
Overall the visualizations are improved, more representative of reality. This had led to improved performance historically.
Lots of disengagement’s from Kim, a lot warranted, a couple maybe a bit unnecessary but hard to judge so you have to rely on her judgment as the driver. She’s a little too obsessed with the amount of space Beta leaves when it stops short a bit, IMO. Leaving a car length or two is mildly annoying, but it isn’t really usually a safety issue of any sort. Definitely is having trouble on some of those tight spaces.Some possible improvements, but overall it looks like it’s performing similarly to 10.0.1 for Kim.
Maybe an improvement on diagonal intersections: Kim had one nice instance where it waited to see what a truck was going to do, and when it saw it was turning it made the turn.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Elon actually responded to Kim's video that diagonal intersections are a helpful case to consider.
Chuck testing lefts. Definitely seems improved, but still of course not perfect. It still needs large gaps from both sides to proceed instead of knowing how to use the median/middle lane. At least it’s no longer aborting completely and just going right in an endless loop. One bad moment on the third (iirc) left turn attempt where it apparently decided to abandon the slow creep for visibility and gun it which forced a quick brake from Chuck with oncoming traffic.
Gali from Hyperchange has a new video up for 10.1 claiming epic monorail success, which doesn’t really mean much considering his “loose” definition of success in the past. I’m not watching the video since I really don’t want to support his, IMO, irresponsible use of the Beta, but if someone does watch it and it does show something noteworthy hopefully they’ll mention it here.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Maybe it was going to jump out to check for visibility and then reverse?
It will be interesting to see how it uses reverse. It sounds terrifying.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
It does, but it's pretty dumb (basically it's the default nav). Tesla's nav still has no waypoints much less exclusion waypoints (which can be used to avoid repeating a loop). Elon has promised multiple times waypoints are coming (most recently did so), but we'll see if it'll arrive.
The podcaster from Milwaukee. Downtown MW drive, very mediocre. Some confusing and difficult situations like the early one with the knocked down cones, but Also some mistakes and some long hesitations in situations that didnt look too hard. Overall not super impressed with 10.1.
This dude is kinda nuts. He lets the car sit for loooong time sometimes even with people waiting. The car stopped in five way intersection and he let the car sit for a few seconds. There was also an instance where a police officer was guiding traffic and was waving him through and he just sat there waiting for the car to do something. The officer was getting visibly upset. Crazy. At least there wasn’t anything that was visibly immediately dangerous, but still, come on. His excuse is that he put “new driver” stickers on his car, but that doesn’t excuse everything.
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I haven’t watched too many 10.1 videos yet, but have you seen any proof of single stack or reversing in FSD beta or anything Elon claimed would be in 10.1?
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Nope. It looks like a small incremental improvement from 10.0.1 at best. Maybe a little better at handling diagonal intersections and unprotected lefts, but not enough examples to be sure.
Remember the does (or does not) Tesla instruct its FSD beta testers to not post negative videos?
www.vice.com
Not sure if it was posted within the last week or so, but here's the actual verbiage.
Tesla NDA Warns ‘Self Driving’ Beta Testers ‘People Want Tesla to Fail’
Every so often, a clip of a Tesla running experimental beta driver assistance software goes viral. But who are the people behind the wheel? And why does it matter?
www.vice.com
Not sure if it was posted within the last week or so, but here's the actual verbiage.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Yeah seems the answer is "does not" based on your source.
Instead it says to stick to ones which are interesting or noteworthy, rather than flooding social media with tons of footage that could be taken out of context.
Zero language regarding restricting the content or banning them from posting "negative" things though.
scottf200
Well-Known Member
He had in one of the videos where some other FSDBeta testers found a way to plug in to the board on the center display.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
Thanks, so nothing at all about not sharing negative videos, only to be selective in what to share and also not to let people take things out of context.Remember the does (or does not) Tesla instruct its FSD beta testers to not post negative videos?
Tesla NDA Warns ‘Self Driving’ Beta Testers ‘People Want Tesla to Fail’
Every so often, a clip of a Tesla running experimental beta driver assistance software goes viral. But who are the people behind the wheel? And why does it matter?
Not sure if it was posted within the last week or so, but here's the actual verbiage.
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