Ed Hart
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Good to know. I did not encounter any such situations today, so I cannot corroborate.
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd doesn't read signs properly fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
what kind of traffic jam and L3 are you talking about? Mercedes is already doing it.
I'd agree with that. The vast majority of my disengagements are to avoid other drivers thinking they have another teenage driver who doesn't know where they are.
The fear for my life type disengagements are definitely in the tiny minority, but the car treating a 100yard exit lane as a driving lane at 70mph sure wakes you up in hurry, as does trying to cross double yellow lines into oncoming traffic.
The problem is that it's the minority that sets the level of trust - and it's that level of trust that really hasn't significantly changed in the last two years.
Sure, it definitely does more and does it better, but will still attempt the most ridiculous, life threatening maneuvers which mean it can never be trusted. So even when its doing well you have to ready for it to try kill you.
Having said all that - it's still more relaxing than manually driving all the time, so I'm using FSD at least 70-80% of the time.
Maybe 12.4.1 won't be so bad...
Except that's exactly what we've been expecting for like 8 years. But now it's not really as much about demonstrating Tesla's ahead as it is about demonstrating they aren't spectacularly failing.
We get the red cones back in 12.4.1?
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Musk Provides Update on Tesla FSD v12.4.1, Goes to Employees Today
Elon Musk gives us an update on Tesla's latest version of FSD, which will now be v12.4.1. It will go out to employees today.
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yep - isn't it three complete rewrites now, or is it four? Maybe its only two or three
We still have time for it to be something else entirely with HW5, all while hoping that nobody with a 2016 car remembers they were supposed to get FSD with their HW2 cars.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Yeah those were some weird claims for sure. Especially when it was clear that the potential range of the cameras was sufficient for these specific cases (there are issues of reliability of perception that are TBD of course).
I am just of the opinion that L3 or higher cannot be done with current hardware. I don’t think they will do L3 with current hardware. Even traffic jam assist (though that seems possible, maybe, sometimes (and certainly not with current software), I just don’t think it is worth bothering with (for Tesla - it would be pretty nice for many owners)).
Daniel in SD
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I said that’s the exception. I think any other L3 will be similar difficultly to robotaxi. Also I’m not convinced the Mercedes system will be safe. They haven’t tested it very much.
That looks like a really old picture.We get the red cones back in 12.4.1?
Musk Provides Update on Tesla FSD v12.4.1, Goes to Employees Today
Elon Musk gives us an update on Tesla's latest version of FSD, which will now be v12.4.1. It will go out to employees today.
Long ago, someone here on TMC suggested that when Musk gives a date, what he really means is "not before" that date. This has proven to be good advice.
So, in this case, "this weekend" means "not before this weekend is over". So, yes Monday is possible, but so is "or later."
Like waiting for FSD to proceed after a stop sign, it takes patience.
By the way, GottaGo, when did you first get a software update which included FSD? What version, do you know? If you subscribe to TeslaFi, the Fleet page has a link to your update history.
There is no known pic of a 12.4.1 screen yet. That is just a "stock" picture used to enhance a super short article that dosn't contain any additional info, obviously all based on Elon's Tweet.
"Arguably should be called version 420.69"
gottagofast
2022 Model 3 Performance
Here is an update on the employee/friend of employee who had posted how bad v12.4.1 was and started a negative swirl of FSD reaction.
Here is the update and it's a complete reversal plus some other tidbits while obviously not confirmed appear positive. Now we will just have to wait for customer feedback hopefully within the next few days.
"Electrified" is a good source of information if you've never watched it.
Starts @00:45
Here is the update and it's a complete reversal plus some other tidbits while obviously not confirmed appear positive. Now we will just have to wait for customer feedback hopefully within the next few days.
"Electrified" is a good source of information if you've never watched it.
Starts @00:45
You mean 12.4 and NOT 12.4.1. It is likely 12.4.1 will just start going to employees in the next few days.
LSDTester#1
In large quantities
I don’t usually disagree with you, but you couldn’t be more mistaken. He is Jar Jar Binks personified.Do teach us the Tesla ways wise Padawan.
Time will tell if this is real but the first ~3 mins were a bit painful to watch. It remains slow and indecisive. Later it performs a lane changed in an intersection. And made a lane change over a solid white line in the left turn lanes.
On the positive, max set speed is improved, accel/decel profile appears slightly more gentle, and appropriately stops closer to cross walk lines.
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