mgs333
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I'm seeing no pending versions except for a few for 8.7.big wave according to teslafi
Yeah I'm seeing the same and wondering if it's some error or if they pulled everything. That 94 for 8.7 is now down to 6
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I'm seeing no pending versions except for a few for 8.7.big wave according to teslafi
Yeah I'm seeing the same and wondering if it's some error or if they pulled everything. That 94 for 8.7 is now down to 6
Seems so. Been on 2024.2.7 since Feb 21 and a manual check yesterday had no update. This morning they pushed .3.6. So far my car has received updates only after I see a thousand or two before me getting theirs. I wonder if .8.7 also has FSD 12.3.2.1.big wave according to teslafi
Not sure what you're asking. Without debating robotaxi chances, it's logical that there would be a minimum capable configuration, yet higher performing configurations to follow.
Accepting liability at all is already an extremely high bar, Elon has thrown numbers out there in the March of 9 spiels like needing to be 1,000% or even 10,000% safer than the average human. When you get there, I don’t know how much further there is to go?Does a robotaxi need to avoid every pothole? If not, do you think it would be better if HW4 end-to-end could avoid more of those potholes? There's potential for the newer hardware (cameras and compute) to see more with higher resolution and respond faster to be better such as increased comfort.
You mean, the way that they've communicated such things to us over the entire course of FSDb development?Much more important would be for Ashok and Elon tell the FSD free trial testers what doesn't work like school busses, school zones, emergency vehicles, pot holes etc. Those are real safety issues new FSD users need to know about.
Might be real. Maybe the installs are being reported from previously downloaded FW.Pending versions now climbing for 8.7, other versions still 0 but still seeing new installs of 3.6.
Teslascope was still unchanged so might be a Teslafi issue.
Edit: now pending is going back down from 196 to ~76
TeslaFi went down ~0730 EDT for about 30 minutes this morning. Probably still recovering.I'm seeing no pending versions except for a few for 8.7.
Yeah I'm seeing the same and wondering if it's some error or if they pulled everything. That 94 for 8.7 is now down to 6
There are already over 400,000 users of FSDb who were not accustomed to the dangers when they began using it. And, FSDb was much worse when they did start using it then it is for new users today.I have no idea if there will be many more accidents with millions of FSDb cars out there, being driven by millions of people who have not become accustomed to the dangers. But one would think that there will be at least an increase in fines, suspension damage, wheel damage and possibly parking lot fender benders.
For my current version there were 34 of us this morning on Teslafi and one pending download. That pending is gone now, but the 34 is unchanged.Pending versions now climbing for 8.7, other versions still 0 but still seeing new installs of 3.6.
Teslascope was still unchanged so might be a Teslafi issue.
It makes sense to me that once cars are capable of L3+, such as the (slow) Mercedes, they'll need that visual indicator the car's driving. Then we will absolutely have some interesting new dynamics. I'm kinda looking forwad to the "fun" of it...Which brings up an interesting conundrum. In the future when people become more aware and understanding of self driving cars they will be more likely to cut them off, walk in front of them, block them in, etc, since self driving cars have no passion and will willing yield. We are stating to see these type of behavior towards Waymo.
Of course you did. My point was very specific- part of the delay is the creep required to move further forward to make a safe decision on low visibility intersections.Did not say it wasn’t!!!
The difference between the existing FSDb users is that, in general, they are interested in the product. A good number of those bought it and have been riding the development train, others have paid for a subscription.There are already over 400,000 users of FSDb who were not accustomed to the dangers when they began using it. And, FSDb was much worse when they did start using it then it is for new users today.
How could they possibly not know? I think they tend to play things close to the vest for competetive reasons and also not to provide too much fodder for the FUDsters. We all want to know this stuff, but "normal" people probably couldn't care less anyway.It would be really helpful if Ashok or Elon posted a list of general issues they’re aware of and addressing.
I would feel much better if Tesla acknowledged that v12 drives too slow, creeps too slow, hesitates at some intersections, etc. so that I had more confidence that they were working on a fix.
Agreed. Misjudging oncoming traffic continues to be FSD's Achilles' heel. We all probably noticed Chuck's tweet of another ADAS test vehicle in his neighborhood this week.I would say the main safety critical issue I see with V12 in my daily drives, is the decision to make those unprotected turns with oncoming traffic. I've been hyper vigilant so there have been no accidents thank goodness. Sometimes, V12 has been really smooth and smart but other times it is very hesitant, kind of jerks the wheel like it is thinking of making the turn but then stops. I am paying attention to oncoming cars and thinking "either go now or wait but make up your mind". I guess I just don't have super confidence that V12 is accurately assessing when to turn in front of oncoming cars to clear the turn safely. So I feel like that scenario is a bit iffy.
I don't know it it's just me, but I haven't noticed any discernible difference between any of the FSD modes.Morning drive with 12.3.2.1 went very well. It's amazing how much better it is than 12.3 in the DC area. Actually worth the monthly subscription.
I do think it accelerates a bit too quick for my liking on both chill and normal. Only real issue I have (I also don't want to eat through my tires).
Auto speed was perfect, although I do wonder if it's smart enough to know to slow down a speed camera.
Really looking forward to seeing how this technology gets better this year. Very promising right now.
Of course you did
You said "Too slow. Slowness not related to bad visibility."
I'd say that it was generally a little too timid when creeping out at intersections with poor visibility.
Get used to this on intersections with poor visibility.
just expect a few second delay on low visibility intersections. People behind you will continue to be a little irritated and there is nothing you can do.
Why wouldn’t it just go to that point initially? (Not counting the NHTSA stop which already happened 10 seconds prior.) What information does it gather by stopping before it can see?When you can see cross traffic well enough to make a decision you'll note that FSD creeps another 2 feet. That slow creep is a 2-4 seconds of added time.