run-the-joules
Turgid Member
I already gave them $3,000 a year and a half ago for the FSD upgrade, that's all they're getting from me. In return, I've not even gotten the early access program they lied about us all being invited to.
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Not quite, no.
Since FSD pricing was the same before/after HW3 was even announced.
(I mean, it's gone up/down a few times, but never changes due to HW3)
When you paid for FSD it essentially came with a promise the car had the HW needed to do it. So since they determined you need HW3 to do it, you get HW3 "free" as an FSD owner.
It's absolutely a free upgrade, to enable a software set of features. And Elon has called it as such numerous times.
Except you're not upgrading your phone. You're buying FSD. They realized they need to swap in HW3 to make that work so they're doing that for free for 2.x cars. For those who already HAVE HW3 with a new car, the price isn't any different.
The HW3 swap is not a separate line item. It's a free upgrade (as Elon stated) to enable the software features you bought.
Unlike in your example, you have no option to get a different price based on the HW swap or not.
I think the actual difference is $3k - $11k for EAP owners all-in, and $8k for new buyers ($2k mandatory cost for basic autopilot, plus $6k for FSD).Ok let's do some math.
New car buyer pays $6000 for FSD (I just checked).
Prior to FSD you had AP and EAP (EAP features is part of the FSD package now). EAP at the time cost $5000.
If you bought EAP for $5000 and now have to pay an additional $6000 to have FSD then you would be paying $11,000 instead of $6000 for the same option as if you bought the car now. Definitely not the same.
Ok let's do some math.
New car buyer pays $6000 for FSD (I just checked).
Prior to FSD you had AP and EAP (EAP features is part of the FSD package now). EAP at the time cost $5000.
If you bought EAP for $5000 and now have to pay an additional $6000 to have FSD then you would be paying $11,000 instead of $6000 for the same option as if you bought the car now. Definitely not the same.
I'm ready with $2000 if you are reading this Elon!
Here's another look at purchasing FSD:
• EAP/FSD are not transferable features from vehicle to vehicle. They are locked to the vehicle. If your Tesla is totaled and your insurance does not cover the EAP/FSD features you would be out $11K+ ($5K for EAP and possibility $6K for FSD currently)
Thoughts on this?
As an EAP owner (got car in December 2018) I want the new 3.0 hardware. I know it won't change what I have immediately, but it will. I want to help Tesla keep developing the technology. But at what price, after EAP already cost me $5k?