Hal Harkness
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2016 S70, completely reliable over 26 months. Absolutely no problems.Yes or no would suffice.
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2016 S70, completely reliable over 26 months. Absolutely no problems.Yes or no would suffice.
Yes or no would suffice.
3+ years in,
12v battery failed once
Had a small rattle that the service center fixed.
I won't buy another one though for the following reasons,
1. Tesla has repeatedly promised and failed to fix the repair situation.
2. The general cost cutting and it's effect on service centers etc. is beginning to show. Also the employees seem overworked and unhappy.
3. AP2 promises largely unfulfilled
4. Model S quality and design mostly stagnant over so many years now.
5. Insurances keep going higher and Tesla doesn't do anything about it.
6. Media experience is terrible, and Tesla CAN improve it, but they just won't.
7. General other hot air tweets by Elon, screen mirroring etc. which are just that - hot air. I still admire him for all that he has done, but his focus is quite thinned out between SpaceX, twitter, politics, and Tesla. I wish he finds a way to refocus.
8. And generally speaking, owning a Tesla out of warranty is a stupid stupid idea. Tesla will screw you as a captive audience at every chance it gets. Just see the other post about charging $3400 for replacing an AC compressor (which is $100-$300). Yeah good job, great way to treat your best supporters, and all those promises about "Service center is not a profit center". BS
But I do like driving it, I do feel "safe" in it, I like AP1 (that is what I have). So you can say I have somewhat of a bipolar relationship with my car.
TL;DR; I'll keep mine for the next few years, with hopes that Tesla somehow addresses the above issues. But I am not holding my breath.
"I had an accident and my car is in the shop for too long" ... is nothing to do about reliability.
Never failed me getting to my destination for every journey I set out on.
A huge indicator of reliability (with all factors considered) is, "would you buy another one?".
According to your definition, a car which does on day 2 of new ownership and can never be repaired has amazing reliability - it only breaks once.Vehicle reliability is measured in frequency (how often does each vehicle of a given make/model incur a given problem?), volume (how many vehicles of a given make/model incur a given problem?), and type of non-accident, non-maintenance repairs.
According to your definition, a car which does on day 2 of new ownership and can never be repaired has amazing reliability - it only breaks once.
P100D which needs a new trunk latch - parts $200, labour $200, rental while waiting 90 days for the part - $45K. Total cost, $45,400. Sounds like very major repair to me.
Ok, imagine every single vehicle dies on day 2 of ownership, cannot be repaired. Now you have a whole fleet where each car only breaks once ever! Wow, that's some awesome reliability.I understand why you may be confused. In this context, "vehicle" does not refer to a singular automobile.
I didn't think insurance cover any rentals while the car is awaiting warranty repairs. Usually Tesla owners have to pay out of pockets for rental costs while their cars await parts for weeks or months. Any other car manufacturer has dealers stock parts, and if not, they can overnight them to the shop if it's important to get the car going.Which insurance companies and/or dealers and/or service centers allow $500 per day for a rental car?
So then a vendor could recommend extraordinary maintenance and you wouldn't count that against reliability?...
Vehicle reliability is measured in frequency (how often does each vehicle of a given make/model incur a given problem?), volume (how many vehicles of a given make/model incur a given problem?), and type of non-accident, non-maintenance repairs.