Tam
Well-Known Member
You can pay all the $10,000 for FSD that you want but you still have to go through the "download button" process that is a virtue test to see whether your driving behaviors are worthy..
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If you HAD to convince someone to not get a Tesla, what would you say?
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The Kia EV6 has a lot less storage than the Model Y. Maybe as little as half as much.
The cargo area looks smaller than the Model Y, plus it has essentially no frunk and only a tiny briefcase sized area under the cargo area.
Not sure how important that is to you, but for me it's a huge advantage for the Model Y.
Also, I don't think the top poster was looking for reasons to buy something else!
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Just wait a couple years, it'll likely be cheaper and have longer range.
Agreed Highlander Hybrid is a joke, no acceleration whatsoever. I thought that it should be faster than v6.
Highlander v6 is much better but still no match in speed to Tesla.
Used Teslas are more money then New right nowDumb to buy a new tesla. Get a used one instead.
Only problem with New is 3 months wait and I though 6 weeks were a pain
linux-works
Active Member
Lack of real rear facing radar is a problem. And now they removed the front radar too.
Tesla uses a lot of glass and I think is a big reason for noise. New refresh S/X has active noise cancelation. And most of your complaints don’t apply to those Tesla’s.
Noise/Ride is an issue on 3/Y but is not on S/X
I’ve done better than advertised range on both Model 3 and Model X.
No issues with either mirrors. The auto darken rear view mirror is often way to dark.
they always are getting better and the next one will be a bit better than the last for = $
so wait a bit & invest any $ in TSLA
CorneliusRox
Member
Customer communications are terrible
Customer service is terrible
Build quality is inconsistent and you don't get to pick your car off the lot, so buying is a pig in a poke.
Hard to find independent service and Tesla service is expensive and slow. They also make it hard to buy parts.
Interiors aren't typical premium level
Stiff suspension
Poor soundproofing compared to other vehicles
Regenerative braking is very strong and you can't configure it to be weaker, meaning the car will brake hard if you lift off the accelerator.
Cruise control is adaptive or nothing: no dumb cruise control fallback if the adaptive cruise isn't working or you simply prefer standard cruise.
Phantom braking when using driver assistance.
Has a long wheelbase so has a relatively large turning radius
Doesn't get the rated range on the highway
No CarPlay
No AndroidAuto
No SiriusXM
Navigation doesn't have waypoints
Single central screen, no display in front of you
No Federal tax credit on the price.
The CEO is a bullshitter with a fragile ego.
Did I miss anything?
Flybuddy
Member
Quality Control
Within spec-take it or leave it
Sideline job for the CEO, not his priority.
Poor internal customer service philosophy, no accountability for complete lack of communication
Service is slow and outside of warranty is grossly expensive
Tech company, not a car company
Haven't expanded service to match growth
Inflexible system
Range exaggerated compared to normal highway driving
Poor mapping, lots of errors, not updated enough
FSD quirks, excessive cost, and fuzzy rules on transfer/keeping
Missing some basics like Apple car play, XM, homelink, power frunk
Phantom braking
Tesla store, communication issues, lack of tracking, long delays
I'm sure I could think of several more if I kept at it. That said, I am still happy with the Y. Thankfully the car requires almost no service and is inherently reliable allowing us to avoid much of the perceived negatives. If we do basic research before purchasing, we're aware of the shortfalls and can add mods to take care of some lacking offerings.
Within spec-take it or leave it
Sideline job for the CEO, not his priority.
Poor internal customer service philosophy, no accountability for complete lack of communication
Service is slow and outside of warranty is grossly expensive
Tech company, not a car company
Haven't expanded service to match growth
Inflexible system
Range exaggerated compared to normal highway driving
Poor mapping, lots of errors, not updated enough
FSD quirks, excessive cost, and fuzzy rules on transfer/keeping
Missing some basics like Apple car play, XM, homelink, power frunk
Phantom braking
Tesla store, communication issues, lack of tracking, long delays
I'm sure I could think of several more if I kept at it. That said, I am still happy with the Y. Thankfully the car requires almost no service and is inherently reliable allowing us to avoid much of the perceived negatives. If we do basic research before purchasing, we're aware of the shortfalls and can add mods to take care of some lacking offerings.
Well then, you never had a luxury vehicle in your life. Your responses are typical kool aid drinking responses. The mirrors are small, more people have said it's small than big just like the AC, the ac system is not great. If you think the plain interior justifies $60k then you answer is subjective. There have been numerous threads that addresses the wind noise. You said you had no quality issues but had a rattle fixed, that contradicts what you just said. There are more people that have reported these issues than praising.
The Highlander Hybrid's AWD system is a piece of crap tho... Toyota's hybrid system does not have a reverse gear. So when you shift into reverse, the engine is only charging the battery, and the rear electric motor, is the ONLY thing propelling the SUV backwards... So if the rear tires happen to be on a patch of snow/ice, you are completely fubarred. My brother complained about this with his, when he was parked in a slightly inclined parking spot. Even on the prius a long time ago, there was a common problem with the car not able to reverse up steeper inclines, because the electric motor didn't have enough torque.
strider
Active Member
Read this thread:
teslamotorsclub.com
2021+ Model S and Model S Plaid Refresh Issues Thread
The purpose of this thread is to collect observed issues with the 2021 Model S Plaid/LR refresh. Missing features, software bugs, recurrent panel alignment issues, etc.
teslamotorsclub.com
In his defense tho, with online groups, people tend to be more vocal about problems then with praises... Otherwise these forums would be eyeballs deep in threads with everyone saying, "Everything is working great"....
