I don’t question your valid arguments to go for a Jaguar instead of a Tesla, but the I-Pace is in size and trunk space smaller than a Model S, and certainly not near the room, size and trunk size of a Model X.
Ours is more of weight issue, what we haul is liquid and glass, so volume is less of an issue.
Having said that, the X75D has a weight capacity of about 740 kg while the I-Pace is at 460 kg. We've been running with an iMiev for 4 years and that's only 360 kg of capacity.
Also, Jaguar is building 20000 I-Pace’s per year so you’re looking for a delivery in 12 months.
We're working on a longer time frame, 8 years of use after a 3 month vs even a 12 month delay getting the vehicle is less important. Dealer believes it won't be a year, they've ordered some on spec that will be available before that. +1 for stealerships I guess.
And with the availability of super chargers vs 100kW fast chargers, it is looking that getting your Model X serviced will take you less travel time than getting your I-Pace serviced. 600km is a 30 minute supercharging session 2/3’rds along the way, while doing the same with an I-Pace will mean a 60 minute stop at a 50kW charger, which is hopefully free when you arrive.
NB has installed Chademo throughout the province, it'll be a time value issue after seeing real world range comparisons. The point of getting the X serviced vs the I-Pace was actually that Jag is treating us like customers, offering Valet service with a loaner. As they are a stealership they need to rely on the income from service. That's double sided sword, the stealership needs to make money, Elon claims their service system is revenue neutral. The down side of remaining revenue neutral is that there is no value in treating customers properly, where the stealership knows their reputation for service and how they treat you is directly related to their survival.
Further, we have lived in Labrador with vehicles under warranty. I understand a little bit about how to deal with being a long way from service centers, and that's the whole point!
When my X-Terra needed some warranty work in Goose Bay, the Nissan dealer called a local shop, set up a deal and had the work done for them. When my smart car needed work done, MB did the same.
When we moved to Fredericton with the smart car, MB sent a regular ranger out to do service. If they needed shop space, they rented a bay from a local garage to get work done. There are models that work for distant servicing. The current Tesla model is bad, but really easily fixable with rangers and a simple scheduling system. If we knew that we could get service done every couple of months, more than happy to deal with that kind of inconvenience. Again, Tesla claims it's revenue neutral servicing so that should be pretty easy to figure out with a spreadsheet. In what world would it cost $1500 to pay a mechanic for 600 km of driving and returning even for a single service call? I can get a full semi delivered from Quebec for less than that, in fact, I do. I had a 40 foot container delivered from 900 km away last year, so a deadheading truck and it was less than $1500.
If you’re considering an I-Pace because of the Model X size and room, you’ve been successfully played by the Jaguar marketing department.
LOL, We're driving an iMiev, I think I can tell the difference between the capability of different cars.
We have owned Suzuki SX4s, smart car, Honda Insight, Nissan X-Terra, the infamous Equiobnoxious, F-150, the iMiev among many others. Each vehicle has a purpose, and nothing is a do all solution.
But realistically, that area of NB is at the moment not suited for EV’s... Except for the planned superchargers, you have absolutely no access to quick chargers. Getting to a Jaguar dealer will take you multiple days because the I-Pace only supports up to 7,2kW charging which takes 14 hours from empty to full. So I’d have to correct my assessment on charging time to an I-Pace to about 9 hours charging during your drive to the dealership.
I wouldn't need to worry about how long it takes for them to get the I-Pace to Halifax, their valet will. It's more about looking at our usage and how often we'd need to Chademo charge. The 3 superchargers that Tesla has planned for NB covers a portion of our long distance driving needs but we'll be Chademo with an X for all the runs up North.
All superchargers in NB are promised to open in 2018.
All the currently promised ones are, hopefully they'll some up North soon.
Driving from Fredericton to Quebec for service is a special kind of crazy tho
Yes, yes that would be crazy, hence the other options that Tesla really could do that would make service available, but choose not to.
Why would you need service on a Model X?
What MrAustraliaTax says...
Just from a SINGLE page of a thread currently on the first page;
"Picked up X100D Saturday, went to service Tuesday!"
"Our new car delivered two weeks ago didn't have jackpads installed so when we got a flat...we were SOL."
" I am currently on a Cadillac XTS rental they gave me for my service. To my surprise it’s much quieter than my X that has many body flexing clicking/popping noises."
"Our S 100D had a similar issue last year. We thought we did a thorough inspection before accepting delivery - and missed that the power adjustments on the front passenger seat weren't working."
"We had an airbag problem on our X, airbag assembly was replaced, life went on."
"After two disappointing weeks with many "fixable" issues in our ordered / custom spec car, we had our Model X returned to us with a scratched wheel by the local service center and another alarming finding as follows:"
"I recently sent them a video w/ audio of my AC making hilarious loud noises that it had never made before (I've had the car for 18 months or so and 20k miles) and they replied "this is normal. you must not have noticed it before. we won't do anything.""
So we've had to live with a Chevy Equiobnoxious for three years. Only car I ever leased, boy was that a good call. GM was horrible to deal with and as a result we'll never buy another GM.
Almost every other manufacturer we've had has been great to deal with, very flexible when working on warranty/servicing issues. The thought that if (for an example) our FWD seals started leaking making the doors impractical when it rains costing us $1500 for a fix is a different kind of crazy tho
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So to summarize a very long answer...
Tesla is the game changer, no doubt and would certainly fit almost all we need in a vehicle (even some of the F-150 work!). Even game changers have to learn from the establishment though. There are solutions that would make ownership work for those who are willing to early adopt and take on part of the risk. If there really is nothing to worry about from an owners perspective, why hang the multiple $1500 weights on a string over every vehicle in a rural area? If there is nothing to worry about for an owner, there is nothing to worry about for Tesla, especially as Tesla has the $110,000 in the bank before they have to deal with anything. Of course, since there is still a wait even for the X, it's clear they feel they can treat owners like this until they run through the demand. Maybe even they've priced the Ranger service at a point that will dissuade customers in higher risk locations from purchasing on purpose. Perhaps with more competition in the EV market, the demand will soften a bit and they will quickly realize they have to work a little harder after the sale.
