Did you read the announcement? Our just go to the Tesla sales site.325? Where is that figure coming from? Even with the 5% boost, I think HP comes in at less than 300.
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Did you read the announcement? Our just go to the Tesla sales site.325? Where is that figure coming from? Even with the 5% boost, I think HP comes in at less than 300.
For me, efficiency is poor unless I (1) charge immediately before departure and (2) do not use the HVAC. In my particular situation, I have free charging at work so I do not use my home charger except in emergencies. Disabling HVAC is not realistic when it is 20-40 degrees.
I do not have an enclosed garage. Without pre-charging and with the HVAC set to 68 degrees, efficiency is a consistent 425-475 wh/m during my daily 7-9 mile commute. If I pre-charge and disable my HVAC, efficiency is 300-350 wh/m. In contrast, a co-worker has a LR RWD with a similar commute, and their efficiency is closer to 250 wh/m under similar conditions.
I will try the HVAC set to 60 degrees to see if that makes a difference. Even so, based on my experience thus far, I cannot in good conscience recommend a P3D or P3D Model 3 to someone that lives in an area with a cooler climate.
325? Where is that figure coming from? Even with the 5% boost, I think HP comes in at less than 300.
Say what?!? 325 is the range man. Up from 310.The 325 hp is some published dyno test on the internet. The official Tesla number is 258 hp, but that number along with the published 5.1 sec 0-60 doesn't calculate out. Using published weight and the 5.1 sec the power calculates out to 326 hp, so the dyno and computed are nearly the same validating the claim. So now applying the new 0-60 time of 5.0 seconds, the calculated power is 333 hp - not close to the 5%. I suspect that Tesla 5.0 sec time is conservative. Applying the 5% to the 325 hp (341 hp), the 0-60 time would be 4.86 sec. We won't really know what the 5% boost will be until it gets pushed out, but it sure will interesting to see what actual times will be after it is pushed out and new dyno numbers.
The same is true for the P3D+ (keep in mind the rear motors are the same between the two trims). When I calculate out the 0-60 in 3.3 sec, the power calculates out to 540 hp and for 0-60 in 3.2 sec the power jumps to 557 hp, which is about 3% improvement. Using the same analysis for the RWD Mdl 3, the 0-60 time should be 3.14 sec.
These power numbers match to the real actual 0-60 times, while the Tesla power output numbers don't - they're conservative.
Say what?!? 325 is the range man. Up from 310.
To buy the performance or not to buy? So, I love the acceleration of the Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive Performance over the Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive Log Range. Money aside, will the Performance version give me a hard time in the winter? I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Do you see advantage over the straight log range over the performance version for real cold winters?
(then - I'm so torn between the colors - I cannot make a decision and I need to to take advantage of free 2 year charging they are offering on Model 3s if I take delivery end of September 2019).
My $0.02: performance model is fun, but factor in that you will HAVE TO (not optional) get another set of tires if you go that route. It comes with summer-only tires.
This right here was a major turnoff for me. I don’t need the P Model - I don’t track, I don’t race... it’s a family car/daily driver for me. LR AWD has all the performance I need or want. Everyone’s needs and wants are different. I’d rather save the cost difference and make memories with my family on a cruise. But that’s me.
Thank you for your genuine $0.02. That makes sense. Would I need to get winter tires for LR AWD? And, have you experienced 50% range loss in the winter or haven't been through winter yet?
I don't know if you have done any road trips yet, but the Performance Mdl 3 seems to do better when at speed >=60 mph, relatively speaking. I'm not too worried about less than par energy usage for city driving, where it matters to me most is road trips where range and performance are both important.
I think Tesla should state at what condition the P3D can achieve 310 mi range. Based on some calculations i've made, i'm estimating 310 mi can be achieve when speed is @ 65 mph, outside temp 65F, HVAC @ 1.0 kW (the car will always have a small drain even with everything turned off), level road, no head / tail wind and tires at 42 psi while using the OEM tires.
One test I haven't done is put the car in CHILL mode, which kind of defeats the reason why I bought a P3D+ in the first place, but it may be a good discussion point to see what the energy usage difference is.
This^.You can always put it on the Chill mode if you are worried about too much torque during daily driving.