HighZ
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Since they released FSD Beta Monday to the cars that hit 100 by Friday, it is likely that once the software is ready for Plaid/rS, those that hit the score by then will also get it.
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Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences
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No, the cabin camera is tracking your phone well.
Like most arbitration clauses, IIRC, Tesla's does allow for small claims court, which may be a viable option in some states.
Looks like your from San Francisco which likely explains why your drives are better then many of the new FSD beta testers who are in other parts of the country. Still great to see such positive results.
HighZ
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Unless your 100 by Friday will still be used to get you the beta.
They did do a cutoff sometime before 7pm Friday and those with 100 got the beta.
There can't be that many Plaids on the road given the cost. I bet that they give the Beta to any Plaid that requested it just due to the size of your investment.
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I will say this, if I were to of used this beta to get a 100% safety score. I'd never be granted it. The amount of high speed turns and hard braking is pretty intense.
Tango. Fsd is waiting behind the stop line at a green, unprotected left. Six lanes of traffic, 55 mph, so has to cross three. One car is approaching in the third lane over with a big gap behind it. As the car gets close to the intersection, FSD starts rolling early in anticipation of turning behind it. Suddenly, the oncoming car decides to come to an abrupt stop just before it gets to the intersection. FSD then come to a stop, because the timing to turn behind the other car in now off. The other car is proceeding so slowly that now FSD thinks it can turn in front of it and begins the turn. Now the other car starts to speed up, and since FSD can no longer make the turn in front of it, it stops. FSD is now stopped in the first lane of oncoming traffic, and the other car slows down again just in front of my car. FSD can't proceed, so I had to intervene and drive around the back of the other car.
I think @panjouser is saying that with the non-upgraded AP2.0, they are not getting the FSD Beta. I don’t think there are service center upgraded AP2.0 to AP2.5 cars, rather there are only a few DIY AP2.0 to AP2.5 cameras and no AP2.0 to AP2.5 redundant steering servo setups nor redundant steering wiring setups.
Yes there are many MCU1 to MCU2 service center upgraded cars (and a few DIY upgraded), just not AP2.0 upgraded. Some of the not upgraded, still MCU1 cars have the HW3 self driving computer upgrade.
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Me and a friend have joked about this for a few months now after seeing someone try that in a video. It'd be hilarious if you engage it with no destination it auto-navigates back to the Fremont factorySo I turned on FSD beta autopilot with no destination in my gps and it literally started going and took a turn I have no clue where it was about to take mehas anyone else tries this?
I get a pop up message on the left-hand window just below the car. It has a green icon.
jabloomf1230
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A couple of comments. I’ve also noticed these issues. On making a left turn from a highway posted attached 55 mph to a residential street with a 30 mph limit, 10.2 began accelerating rapidly (attempting to achieve 55 mph again) until it reached the 30 mph sign, which was displaced about 20 feet from the intersection. This whole transition was unnerving to say the least.
Also in a local residential street network with no speed limit signs, 10.2 assumed a speed limit of 25 mph. This may be a residual behavior from when FSD beta used OSM speed limit tags. Nodes without this tag must default to 25 mph which IMO is still too fast considering that these streets potentially may have obstacles and pedestrians.
The neural network keeps making multiple path predictions (e.g., the multiple ways to go through an intersection) and usually the most likely predicted path is to continue straight except of course at intersections where you can't go straight. But sometimes it can decide a side road looks like the most likely path. FSD Beta also still uses turn signals when it believes it's approaching a turn, so that seems to be an indication of the signals not reliant on navigation.
I've been cancelling navigation to trick FSD Beta to go straight (where before Autosteer naturally would only go straight anyway) so that it "misses" a turn to then re-navigate on a more desired route. Doing this also avoids / isolates behaviors that are specific to navigation routing that involves longer term planning, e.g., getting into a certain lane for an upcoming maneuver.
It wouldn't be a classy move or a smart move to give early beta software to everyone who asked (and paid) for non-beta software. Also, the issue has nothing to do with whether you take responsibility for your safe use of the car.
I understand the frustration of those who have not received the beta, but I'm sure everyone will get it in due time. And, most importantly, it will be a MUCH better experience for those WHO are trying it for the first time in 6 months versus now.
Wouldn't this issue have more get more attention in a separate thread?
(And I DO think the yokers/Sers got screwed. It just seems that this FSD beta experience thread is more about the legitimate griipes of a subset than about the specific experiences people are having with the software and the download experience.)
clydeiii
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Q for all the people who got beta: did you get an email notifying you? Did you sign anything (NDA, etc.)? Or did the push update just show up early Monday morning and you saw the notification your mobile app?
Think of it this way, in 2-3 years when new features are released, we'll get it and they won't have compatible hardware lol.
I got one email. I signed nothing unless you count checkboxes in the car. I don't recall an NDA there. Just that it's my responsibility yada yada yada.
Hello,
We will be pushing FSD Beta Version 10.2 (2021.32.25) to your vehicle shortly!
Full Self-Driving is in limited early access Beta and must be used with additional caution. It may do the wrong thing at the worst time, so you must always keep your hands on the wheel and pay extra attention to the road. Do not become complacent. When Full Self-Driving Beta is enabled, your vehicle will make lane changes off highway, select forks to follow your navigation route, navigate around other vehicles and objects, and make left and right turns. Use Full Self-Driving Beta only if you will pay constant attention to the road, and be prepared to act immediately, especially around blind corners, crossing intersections, and in narrow driving situations. Every driver is responsible for remaining alert and active when using Autopilot and must be prepared to take action at any time.
As part of receiving FSD Beta, your vehicle has automatically opted into VIN associated telemetry sharing with Tesla, including Autopilot usage data, images and/or video. If you wish to be removed from the limited early access FSD Beta please email [email protected]
Your vehicle is running on Tesla Vision! Note that Tesla Vision also includes some temporary limitations, as noted below:
- Follow distance is limited to 2-7.
- Autopilot top speed is 80 mph.
- Press the "Video Record" button on the top bar UI to send an Autopilot Snapshot video clip.
- Clips are automatically sent to the engineering team. You will not be able to view the clip.
- You can email your feedback to [email protected].
- In your email please include date, time, location, and if you took an Autopilot Snapshot. This helps us investigate issues, and better understand your feedback.
Thank,
The Tesla Team
Venom
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