This is a really interesting line of thought.
"Full Self Driving Capability" is the name of a product. It means nothing.
Well, no more than a happy meal "means" something or any other product name that isn't, inherently, a complete and detailed description of the product itself.
I dunno what's "interesting" about it, it's true of TONS of products on the market.
The "detailed" description of this just says "city streets autosteer" as the only described thing not being shipped yet.
What is the exact future feature set you are buying with FSD today?
You just described it. How are you still confused?
It appears that we all agree that if you buy FSD today, all Tesla owes you is allowing autosteer (not even navigate on autopilot) on city streets. That's a very low bar, far away from what most people would think they would get by buying FSD for $12,000. But it's all they "promised" in the "detailed description", right?
Yup.
For current/recent buyers anyway.
Folks who bought before ~March 2019 were promised quite a bit more, which is why you can make a pretty good argument for there being two different versions of the FSD "product", the one described/sold prior to 3/19, and the one after.
Why is everyone so sure that if you buy FSD today for $12K that Tesla will ever owe or give you more than a small upgrade of allowing autosteer use on city streets, and what is autosteer anyway?
For me, it's because I'm a pre-3/19 buyer.
You're again confusing 2 different ideas though (and these are ideas already explained to you many times- so it's again hard to take your argument as serious or remotely an honest attempt to discuss this).
There's what Tesla legally owes to whom-- which primarily matters most if Tesla is unable to deliver it.
This bit is relevant because if, for example, Tesla is able to deliver an L2 version of city streets.... all post 3/19 buyers are "whole", legally. They're "owed" nothing further, legally. Pre 3/19 buyers are.... and if Tesla announced they will be unable to deliver more than that, the pre-3/19 buyers are owed compensation, and the post 3/19 buyers are not.
Then there's what Tesla will actually deliver (beyond the minimum promised) and to whom IF they're able to successfully get all the way to what they promised the pre 3/19 buyers (which is at minimum an L4 system with a reasonably wide ODD).
If they can do that, they don't technically "owe" that to the post 3/19 buyers-- but it's
extremely likely bordering on certain they will
deliver it to them anyway.
Apart from the PR benefit, there's a number of practical benefits for Tesla as a company doing this (and we've been over them repeatedly in case you were about to pretend you forgot them again).... and the current worldwide take rate has been low enough that doing so makes far far more sense than not.
"FSD" is NOT A PRODUCT TESLA HAS FOR SALE, so you are not buying it when you pay $12K for something...
I didn't say that though.
If you could stop making up things nobody said that'd be great.
What I
actually said was the unfinished narrow-release FSDBeta is not a product tesla has for sale. Because it's not.
It's an early, not finished, not in general release, testing version of what they hope eventually becomes the DELIVERED wide release product they DO owe to customers.
If I pre-order the next Game of Thrones book, I'm not "owed" access to the in-progress chapters that aren't finished yet. Even if the author decides to share them with some limited # of folks and not others. I'm only owed a finished copy once it's done and in wide release.
"FSD" is absolutely a product they have for sale. And you get all the specific current listed features IMMEDIATELY on purchase, and are owed the one "coming later" one they list as well-- the city streets one. The public wide release one, not an early unfinished test version that isn't even mentioned on the sales page.