ucmndd
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"Enhanced visualizations" has never been a stated feature to be delivered with the FSD package.
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MCU1 S Owners: Logic FOR/AGAINST Tesla's $2,500 "Infotainment Upgrade"? (Not required for FSD)
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"Enhanced visualizations" has never been a stated feature to be delivered with the FSD package.
ucmndd
Well-Known Member
Responsiveness to touch, map rotations/zooms/etc. If you've never played with the interface in an MCU2 car, go try it out. It's much more responsive. Browser actually works.
MCU1 is laggy. Doing ANYTHING. Maps loading, voice commands, searching, switching menus. I had a new loaner and it was night and day difference. For that alone I would want to upgrade. The other improvements are just a bonus for me.
Then don't call it "Full Self-Driving Visualization Preview"
If you are going to quote me, at least have the courtesy to include the whole statement.
ucmndd
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The whole statement doesn't change any facts. The title "Full Self-Driving Visualization Preview" is accurate and descriptive. Why should it change?
As I said, it doesn't change the fact that the visualizations were never marketed nor sold as a deliverable feature for the FSD package, so they're not owed to you. They're a "nice to have" for cars with hardware that support it.
You said "Part of the FSD package is the Enhanced Visualizations." That's not true, and what I was responding to.
I think it would be accurate to say we don't agree on this.
I guess I didn’t use maps much due to Waze and it being slow, but the voice command has gotten worse. I assumed it was an eMMC 8gb size issues that could be solved with a 16gb replacement. I can’t ever rmr using the browser except for the log burning background page for fun once in 5 years.
I want to make sure what I’m fully getting for $2500 because it seems the AP functions won’t work with AP/HW1. Still not sure it’s worth to get the MCU2 versus just a new 16gb eMMC for much less.
ucmndd
Well-Known Member
If I still had the 2015 AP1/MCU1 70D I'd probably get the MCU2 upgrade ONLY when my MCU1 bit the dust.
But, I'd be pretty annoyed with the missing FM option. I think that's another "its too early for that" like when they decided it would be a great idea to remove the rain sensor.
I want to clarify what you mean by the statement "the AP functions won't work with AP/HW1". Presumably, you mean the FSD functions won't work with AP/HW1? I am assuming that after upgrading to MCU2 for those cars we still have auto-pilot, just not the full self-driving functionality?
My understanding is that on my 2016 Model S with AP, the upgrade would result in a much more responsive interface and voice interface, a working browser and some additional streaming and gaming capabilities (which I personally do not care about) but that AP would continue to work as before.
Pismo
Member
Anyone else think that this $2500 won't last long. When demand may be lower than they thought, it could drop to $2000, or even $1500
But boy it sure picks up orange cones, doesn’t it? Something to fascinate us while we wait for something real.
MCU1 fix has been $2000 since basically the past 6 years. Hard to say if MCU2 upgrade would drop in price.
Wrong. It used to be &2500 but there are recent reports of ~$1500.
exactly where do you get $2000?
My guess is that if demand is too low they will just discontinue it, not lower the price. (Like they have discontinued the software unlock of battery capacity on "60 kWh" cars that actually have a 75 kWh pack.)
f-stop
Active Member
I’m thinking the same, my 2015 AP1/MCU1 70D is now out of warranty and I did not purchase the ESA, so I was worrying at some point I’d be out of pocket to repair a failed MCU. If/when that happens I’d now go for the MCU2 upgrade
I for one won't miss FM - I never listen to FM since the local stations are all bad so I listen to USB or streaming audio instead. But I do listen to AM radio on occasion for local hockey gameday broadcasts. I could use TuneIn for that, so while annoying at least there's a workaround.
Speaking of streaming audio, can someone that uses Spotify comment on how reliably that works in their MCU2 car? Is there any improvement compared to Spotify on MCU1?
specifically in my MCU1 car, Spotify frequently stops playing after a while, and more times than not Spotify refuses to resume playing when first getting back into the car. The only way then to get it to resume playing is to first switch audio source and then back to Spotify. I've been assuming this could simply be general MCU1 / mediaplayer buggy misbehavior, or perhaps a sign of impending emmc failure? Is Spotify playback on MCU2 more solid? if so, I'm thinking that might be another plus for the upgrade.
OTARon
Member
So my question is cars made with the MCU2's do not have AM/FM/Sirius XM? I would love the upgraded MCU speed and 5g would be faster where ever I could find it, but I mean come on Tesla why are you dropping Radio and Satellite, one of the reasons some of us purchased premium audio in the first place. Since I don't have or will be getting FSD in a 2016 90D, why pay $2500 to lose more than I would gain? I find it funny how before software ver 2020.4.1 my voice commands worked just fine, and I had arcade, after 2020.4.1 arcade is now gone, and voice commands don't work, but "if you act right now for the low price of $2500 you get voice commands and arcade....."
Current S&Xs have FM and XM, but not AM. The reason for dropping it has been covered in the threads many times. The tuner is a separate module that would have to be replaced and that would cost more.
There is a rumor that you can request to have the tuner upgraded as well, but they didn't say how much, if anything, that would cost. (My guess is ~$800 on top of the MCU2 upgrade cost.)
