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Look where the nose crease falls off on the sides. The alpha line ran down and directly along the front of the parking light. It no longer does this. The angle has been softened and it now angles back more and intersects the parking light a few inches back. There may have been more than one nose on the alphas, but in the renderings on the website, the nose is ever so slightly different.
McHoffa
CyberOwners
I still think it's the angle of the shot. This shot of the silver one is closer to the same angle, and the nose looks lower than in most of the silver shots.
Zaphod
Galaxy President (former)
Possibly, by to my uncalibrated eyeballs, the nose on the blue car is lower at the leading edge. The vertical height from the lower opening to the crease in the silver looks taller compared to the blue.I still think it's the angle of the shot. This shot of the silver one is closer to the same angle, and the nose looks lower than in most of the silver shots.
I agree, I think its the same. You need to be really careful with reflections on the dark cars, as they can easily make the apparent body lines move.I still think it's the angle of the shot. This shot of the silver one is closer to the same angle, and the nose looks lower than in most of the silver shots.
(Don't go by the pics on the website, as those are computer renderings and could very well be different. Take a look at photos from the reveal event. the red car appears to have a softer nose than the others in some views, I think its because of the color and the way light reflects)
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
I wouldn't take a whole lot away from the red one anyway, other than maybe the color.
It was a wood, clay, and plastic rolling 3D model. Body lines on something made of clay and wood underneath probably can be tossed from this exercise.
GBleck
Member
As someone who shapes surfboards for fun, judging shape and contour is highly dependent on lighting. Add camera field of view and rolling shutter issues and it's even harder. I'm not sure the nose changed significantly.
JoaoD
Tech Enthusiast
The mirrors are slightly different.I still don't see any changes.
sakimano
Active Member
The Model 3 still looks far better than the redesigned Panamera ... at about 1/4 the price
Are people still thinking they're going to get a model 3 for $35,000? I'm thinking a well equipped one with the options a panamera owner would want (nav, sunshine roof, high quality leather, good seats) as well as dual motor and a large battery will be pushing $70,000 USD. The Porsche panamera starts at about $85,000. If your government wants to help (as ours does with a $14,000 CDN subsidy) that's fine...but the idea of a passable model 3 for $35,000 seems like a pipe dream. It probably reflects Tesla taking credit for subsidies and 'gasoline savings' which is weird marketing to say the least. Don't see diesel car manufacturers doing that on their configurator.
I would say it's more realistic to think that a well equipped Model 3 with a smaller battery and RWD will be about 75% of the price of a well equipped base engine panamera. A similarly equipped base engine panamera which is still a very competent performer...these are Porsches after all. You can of course ratchet up performance meaningfully with the Turbo or Turbo S (or S e-hybrid) in the panamera's case and you can do the same with battery options on a model 3.
Panamera is a far bigger car and is obviously more of a Model S competitor. When you start to get silly with options on a Model S P100D the pricing reflects the Panamera Turbo S. Performance is similar. The Panamera Turbo S is a bit slower off the line (still low 3 seconds to 60 mph) but up top they're the same both trapping in the 120s in the quartermile. In a run from 40-50 mph up, they'll be door handle to door handle.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
You're speaking of 2 different vehicles, and 2 different prices.
I don't think anyone expects to get a well-equipped Model 3 for $35,000.
Yes two different vehicles out of which one is irrelevant here and I for one has zero interest in, sorry to sound rude but I really hope we can keep this tread alive with real Model 3 sightings and related discussions.
HabitualUser
Member
Foxhound199
Member
Is that what they're complaining about? Damn, people are picky.
Whistle2Whine
Member
I'd really like to discuss these interior pictures. Something no one has mentioned is that it already looks like Volvo-guy was able to address a Tesla shortcoming: The mixture of materials looks better than any Tesla to day or the M3 prototype. The way the black leather/plastic and faux wood come together with the metal strips looks exactly like the kind of work he did at Volvo for the XC90 and S90, but applied to Tesla tech. Can they get him started on the S and X please?
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
The nose has clearly changed. Here some marked-up pics of the last few images that were posted previously. On the RC, the crease extends wider past the signal light, the top part of the nose (#1, from the edge to the hood) is wider, and the front end of the nose (#2) is not as tall. They are relatively small, but noticeable differences.
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