And to add to the confusion even more, I got my options code list from the REST API and I have a BT37 options (75kwh pack for the M3) and a CH07 (48A OBC) which seems to be for the LR battery pack only. Not sure how reliable this information is though.. I guess that with the 48A OBC, I could always give that a try with at a charging station that can deliver 48A.
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And to add to the confusion even more, I got my options code list from the REST API and I have a BT37 options (75kwh pack for the M3) and a CH07 (48A OBC) which seems to be for the LR battery pack only. Not sure how reliable this information is though.. I guess that with the 48A OBC, I could always give that a try with at a charging station that can deliver 48A.
Update : I've started to log the voltage (HV) of the pack , not completely done yet but it's seems in phase with a 53.9 kwh pack (as reported on CAN) when comparing the HV vs SOC from a LR.
Does anyone have insight over how software limited battery works.
Does telsa physically stop the battery from charging once it reaches 220 miles of range (thus stopping charge at 90%), or does it fully charge to 100% and software makes the car "die" at 10% (20 miles range) ?
Does telsa physically stop the battery from charging once it reaches 220 miles of range (thus stopping charge at 90%), or does it fully charge to 100% and software makes the car "die" at 10% (20 miles range) ?
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Got my SR+ 8h ago and weighted it with precise scale. It's to the exact pound the same weight as a MR (not sure if this weight is confirmed).
SR/+ and MR are two different module designs. MR has more cells. The blanks are open on one end, and thus filled with a fire retardant potting material that insulates all of the module. Just because less cells doesn’t necessarily equate to less weight...have to factor in what takes the place of the cell and what it weighs.
As far as the rest of the car, I can’t speak to the differences of SR/+ and MR.
As far as the rest of the car, I can’t speak to the differences of SR/+ and MR.
How do you know this and that it's not a software limited MR pack? Basically i want to know if i can charge to 100% without damaging battery! Haha
Blu Angel
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Wow! I believe your every word!
Sounds like you've seen these in person, upclose & eyeball to eyeball!
My sticker price also mentioned the Long Range Option too at 8K(USD), I think that is normal? But if the weight of the SR+ is identical to the MR, then how could the SR+ mange 8% less range with 20% less battery capacity than the MR?
Ugh, I should have read the next page, so it's apparently a 53.9kWh battery which makes the SR+ 8% less range with 13% less battery capacity at the same weight.
srs5694
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Technically, they changed the configuration details and took it off-menu. but the "SR" (non-plus) configuration is still available. With the bundling of AP on most builds, it's unclear if this version is still $35K, though, so you may be correct; or maybe not. At a minimum, though, it's now a sort of "red-headed step-child" configuration.
It played out as I thought it would. Here is what I think happened:
Tesla's 220 miles estimate for SR was conservative. They knew the actual score would be higher. We don't know the actual score because EPA hasn't released it yet but using the LR and SR cell counts that were leaked here in 2017 and EPA scores of LR, I'm calculating that the SR pack with 2976 cells actually scores ~234 miles EPA rated range.
I think to make use of this difference they came up with the SR+ idea as an afterthought. To increase the range gap between SR and SR+ I think Tesla increased the ~234 miles score to 240 miles by using alternative multipliers instead of 70% to convert dyno scores to range numbers. EPA allows this. This is actually a common method they use.
In fact, Model 3 LR AWD didn't quite score 310 miles either but they really wanted exactly 310 miles for all three versions, so they used the same method there. At the time, I found the alternative multipliers in an EPA document. It was published on Electrek here. To summarize, SR+ buyers are getting what was originally planned to be SR's battery and SR's range.
This thread started on 1st March 2019 when Tesla added SR to the design studio. On the same day, I wrote message #22 above and predicted that SR would be discontinued because most people buy SR+ anyway. Unsurprisingly, Tesla's blog post here mentions the same reason. Quote: "Given the popularity of the Standard Plus relative to the Standard, ..." Therefore, as far as predictions go, I'm happy with mine. Here are other predictions:
Tesla's 220 miles estimate for SR was conservative. They knew the actual score would be higher. We don't know the actual score because EPA hasn't released it yet but using the LR and SR cell counts that were leaked here in 2017 and EPA scores of LR, I'm calculating that the SR pack with 2976 cells actually scores ~234 miles EPA rated range.
I think to make use of this difference they came up with the SR+ idea as an afterthought. To increase the range gap between SR and SR+ I think Tesla increased the ~234 miles score to 240 miles by using alternative multipliers instead of 70% to convert dyno scores to range numbers. EPA allows this. This is actually a common method they use.
In fact, Model 3 LR AWD didn't quite score 310 miles either but they really wanted exactly 310 miles for all three versions, so they used the same method there. At the time, I found the alternative multipliers in an EPA document. It was published on Electrek here. To summarize, SR+ buyers are getting what was originally planned to be SR's battery and SR's range.
This thread started on 1st March 2019 when Tesla added SR to the design studio. On the same day, I wrote message #22 above and predicted that SR would be discontinued because most people buy SR+ anyway. Unsurprisingly, Tesla's blog post here mentions the same reason. Quote: "Given the popularity of the Standard Plus relative to the Standard, ..." Therefore, as far as predictions go, I'm happy with mine. Here are other predictions:
- Soon the off-menu SR option will be gone.
- Eventually, they will replace SR+ with SR AWD. All Model 3s will be AWD.
- When they start Model Y production, SR will be completely discontinued. They will only have LR AWD and P versions of Model 3 and Y.
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M3BlueGeorgia
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I think the SR has already been discontinued, except for people with existing orders and a few people who might run to the store (or phone) to place an order. It effectively was available for less than 2 months.
Met Elon's promise of having a $35K Model 3, and now gone. Just like the 40kWh version of the Model S.
Met Elon's promise of having a $35K Model 3, and now gone. Just like the 40kWh version of the Model S.
golfpilot
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All the things that make my car feel like a Tesla are missing on that 35k version. Supercharging ability is the only thing about that car that might give it an edge over a competitor. Good for the people that got it, but I'm glad there won't be a flood of them.
35k version will still have have a damn good drivetrain and awesome handling that gives it the edge over competitors. However, admittedly, most consumers don't consider drivetrain and handling when purchasing a vehicle, which is why Camrys sell so well.
I also realize that great drivetrains and sublime handling are not exclusively Tesla features, but at this price point I'd argue they are.
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