Wiki Model S Delivery Update

[Drew-MS]

For those of you wondering about aftermarket tire sizes and wheels. I looked some up on tirerack and there are quite a few choices for summer tires and a few all season options too for 20' wheels. They are almost identical in diameter to the stock 21" tires. Depending on wheel setup, you should be able to knock of 11-12 lbs per corner over the 21" arachnids. 45ish lbs of unsprung weight.

265/40/20 fronts
295/35/20 rears

Pirelli Cinturato P7 all seasons
Michelin Pilot Sport all season 4's
Michelin Pilot Sport 4s summer tires

TS Sportlines will be the cheapest wheels with tires when they come out, but they are still flow forged and heavy.
Martian wheels will be the best bang for you buck and they are light and forged. The M3P guys seem to like them. There aren't too many styles and I'm not sure when they come out.
Signature wheels are probably the highest quality, forged, light and perfect offset, but they are pricier.

HRE and TSW also have some nice wheels in 9.5” and 10.5”.
Also, great ‘performance’ all season tires at a good price are the Continental ExtremeContact DWS. Have exact 19” sizes but only 245-40-20 and 275-35-20.

 

[IamGaryGnu]

What in the actual *sugar* is this?!!!!!

can we now finally play Witcher and cyberpunk 2077? Or at least Pong?

 

[glide]

Nevermind. I called Progressive and was told that it is covered as long as I have receipts for it.

Hope they also mentioned they only cover aftermarket mods up to $5K.

Progressive would not cover my post-sale FSD purchase because of this restriction.

 

[Ramphex]

Lol agree. I felt the opposite up until a few days ago. Now the videos are making me anxious but I still find myself watching every single plaid and LR video

I’ll probably binge when I have a VIN and a date assigned, the day prior or something. Right now it’s just making me hate Tesla’s customer service so much more, knowing there’s something great that I’m willing to pay for, was promised by their sugar site to come in June, and there’s 0 communication and a Ken Doll delivery date.

 

[Ramphex]

HRE and TSW also have some nice wheels in 9.5” and 10.5”.
Also, great ‘performance’ all season tires at a good price are the Continental ExtremeContact DWS. Have exact 19” sizes but only 245-40-20 and 275-35-20.

I’ve been running DWS on my Evo X for 7 years now. Fantastic all season tire with one of the highest ratings for tread wear.

can we now finally play Witcher and cyberpunk 2077? Or at least Pong?

In 2 weeks

 

[lolachampcar]

Woah woah woah! What's wrong with Millennials? As a Millennial who ordered the Long Range back in December of 2020 and knows how to properly spell "enough" I must say, I fear for the "unknown things" that could happen more than most! Happy July to you mysterious person of unknown generation

Another ole Swedish proverb.
Throw a stick into a pack of millennials and the one that yelps is the one you hit.

 

[IamGaryGnu]

Speaking of 19" rims for winter tires, has anyone figured out the narrowest tires that are acceptable on these?

Why would you want narrower? Better mileage? It is my belief in winter that you want as wide as possible for better traction, but I can be mistaken. Thanks!

 

[Ramphex]

It’s funny how each generation takes jabs at the one after them. I’m a millennial and I think the generation after us is going to be our demise.

 

[IamGaryGnu]

In 2 weeks

Actual, or TeslaTime?

 

[Ramphex]

Why would you want narrower? Better mileage? It is my belief in winter that you want as wide as possible for better traction, but I can be mistaken. Thanks!

Wider for better traction is a misconception for any season. It has validity to a point, a very fine point. But in the winter you want a narrow(er) tire to cut through the snow and slush so it does not float on top of it, due to the large surface area.

 

[Ramphex]

Actual, or TeslaTime?

Only Tesla time here

 

[lolachampcar]

It’s funny how each generation takes jabs at the one after them. I’m a millennial and I think the generation after us is going to be our demise.

Agreed

 

[chromeboy]

What in the actual *sugar* is this?!!!!!

Great voice. Terrible suggestions. Also he's holding the yoke wrong for his horn example (yokegate!)

 

[bmt00]

You guys realize that contact patch size is a function of weight and pressure not tire width right?

 

[chromeboy]

Does anyone have any accessories to recommend? Looking for cargo liners or anything else that are known to fit so far.

Was looking for this the other day! If you find any, please post! Or maybe we need a new thread for 2021 Model S Accessories?

 

[CWhite]

Why would you want narrower? Better mileage? It is my belief in winter that you want as wide as possible for better traction, but I can be mistaken. Thanks!

Narrow tires can get down thru 6-8” of snow instead of “snowplaining” . Wide tires are good on bare ice , especially if you have ice capable tires. Of course narrow tires decrease the contact patch that increases pressure on the tire surface that will increase bite so in theory narrow tires could help on ice also but I have always felt wide is good for ice. Not much is without complicated thinking.

 

[CWhite]

You guys realize that contact patch size is a function of weight and pressure not tire width right?

So a tire twice as wide has no larger contact patch??? So why does the plaid have so much wider back tires if it does not help traction which has a direct correlation with contact patch size?

 

[vm92]

finally picking up my LR tomorrow morning 10am in Smithtown NY!

does anybody have a checklist to go over the vehicle at time of pick up? this is my first Tesla super excited!

 

[bmt00]

So a tire twice as wide has no larger contact patch??? So why does the plaid have so much wider back tires if it does not help traction which has a direct correlation with contact patch size?

There are other dynamics related to tire width but it's simple physics with respect to contact patch size, pressure, and load.

Assuming the tires run at the same pressure the contract patch will be shorter and wider on wider tires but it has to be the same total area.

An absurd amount of attention has been given to this dynamic with road bike tires and how different widths affect rolling resistance, especially in real world conditions.

 

[MFrunkerOG]

I was thinking the same thing! Too much hate for us Millennials IMO.

a little disdain is actually quite healthy