Wiki Model S Delivery Update

[terranx]

But the MSLR has dragstrip mode. If the EPA started testing the '24s with both dragstrip and track mode, why didn't the MSLR at least get some of the range reduction?

For all we know they removed drag strip mode on the 24s. Or more likely they made some software tweaks to curb the range hit in the other modes

 

[dn325ci]

How could the deadline be 6 days before actual price change otherwise you could just place another order after the 10th but before the evening of the 16th and still get the old price?

Correct. New orders placed in the intervening days between the acceptance deadline and the price increase are ‘24 models at the old price.

 

[sorka]

But it’s not a drivetrain or battery change. It’s that “efficiency package” software they update on the regular. Seems a little wager is in order...

What I want and hope is that the '24 isn't actually any different than the '23 both software and hardware and that if there's some real difference in software that 21-23 will never get, that it can at least be disabled or not be relevant because it's something you have to turn on that isn't related to normal long trip driving.

 

[sorka]

For all we know they removed drag strip mode on the 24s. Or more likely they made some software tweaks to curb the range hit in the other modes

I'll check for dragstrip mode on the MSLR tomorrow. If Tesla knew about the EPAs change, which they would, and they really didn't want the LR to be hit, I think that is a very good guess on one possibility.

 

[sorka]

Correct. New orders placed in the intervening days between the acceptance deadline and the price increase are ‘24 models at the old price.

So then why would the price increase on on order that needed EPA change acceptance on Jan 11th?

 

[sorka]

As for whether the '24 Plaid UR that is on the way to San Diego was a customer reject, doubt as it hasn't yet arrived in San Diego and if it was rejected, why would they pay to move it rather than just add it to inventory where it was rejected?

 

[dn325ci]

What I want and hope is that the '24 isn't actually any different than the '23 both software and hardware and that if there's some real difference in software that 21-23 will never get, that it can at least be disabled or not be relevant because it's something you have to turn on that isn't related to normal long trip driving.

Dude, software changes all the time and will continue to do so forever and ever amen.

The car will be the same. What has changed is the testing methodology.

 

[MP3Mike]

What I want and hope is that the '24 isn't actually any different than the '23 both software and hardware and that if there's some real difference in software that 21-23 will never get, that it can at least be disabled or not be relevant because it's something you have to turn on that isn't related to normal long trip driving.

It will be just like other changes they have made. New vehicles don't have the option to dial down regen, but old cars get to keep that ability. I think they even removed roll stopping mode on current vehicles.

2024s absolutely will have different software.

 

[dn325ci]

So then why would the price increase on on order that needed EPA change acceptance on Jan 11th?

It didn’t. If you did not accept and entered a new order the 11th you got the old price because the price change came later. This was obviously timed purposefully, and why the deadline was given beforehand so that the Modify Design process would not trigger higher pricing.

 

[lbowroom]

It will be just like other changes they have made. New vehicles don't have the option to dial down regen, but old cars get to keep that ability. I think they even removed roll stopping mode on current vehicles.

2024s absolutely will have different software.

Those software changes were driven by hardware changes that previous versions can’t do, therefore they don’t get it.

 

[terranx]

Those software changes were driven by hardware changes that previous versions can’t do, therefore they don’t get it.

Pretty sure that’s not the case when they offer the modes in other regions still (or even added them back in the case of China)

 

[sorka]

It didn’t. If you did not accept and entered a new order the 11th you got the old price because the price change came later. This was obviously timed purposefully, and why the deadline was given beforehand so that the Modify Design process would not trigger higher pricing.

Then why was the acceptance deadline on the 10th and not the 16th? I.e what happens to the price of your UR order if you don't accept until the 11th?

 

[MP3Mike]

Those software changes were driven by hardware changes that previous versions can’t do, therefore they don’t get it.

Really? It is newer vehicles with fewer features than older vehicles... You think newer vehicles aren't capable of lower regen?

 

[Chip Geek]

I ordered Dec 1 but did not get an email to accept changes (or a price increase).
I'm guessing that's because it's a MS-LR, and the range didn't change. Does that sound correct based on what we know?

 

[sorka]

I ordered Dec 1 but did not get an email to accept changes (or a price increase).
I'm guessing that's because it's a MS-LR, and the range didn't change. Does that sound correct based on what we know?

Yes.

 

[coffeci]

Yes.

Did you get vin assigned?

 

[sorka]

There are now 3 '24 Plaids in the system.

 

[dn325ci]

Then why was the acceptance deadline on the 10th and not the 16th? I.e what happens to the price of your UR order if you don't accept until the 11th?

So that the order could convert from 2023 to 2024 at the same price. Tesla could not do it unilaterally - it required acceptance of the new terms by the customer. They obviously knew that the price increase was coming a week later, so a deadline was needed for customers to accept the new terms or not. If you did not accept, the email stated your order fee would be reimbursed. I’m not sure why this is hard.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Second post today.
I ordered my MS LR Red in November,
in January I was assigned 2023 Vin, due to medical reasons I put my order on hold, hold finished on January 18th, and waiting for VIN since then

Now tesla started to charge extra for the color option, so today I saw my config on existing inventory on my service center for $2500 higher price, I called them if i can pick it up, and they told me only if pay $2,500 more.

And more: sales rep told me, since I ordered 2023 Tesla, and tesla do not produce 2023 cars anymore, even my order still waiting for VIn assignment, I will never get VIN assigned since that price is not available anymore!!!!!

So if i dont accept to pay the new price I will not get a new car.
Is that correct? if not how come a sales person lie like this?

I doubt that is true. They will eventually deliver your car for the price you agreed to when you ordered. They have always honored the order price in the past. My order is the same. The price went up because of the red color. I'll just wait until they deliver.

 

[n2mb_racing]

The pricing changed on the evening of the 16th, so any time before that would have been fine.

The pricing doesn't change with the hold. My hold ended Jan 28 and still shows the old price.