Tesla doesn’t have FSD, I’d rather spend that 8k on ocean front property in Arizona.
Totally agree - the features currently offered under "FSD" are nearly totally devoid of actual FSD'ing capability. They've been selling FSD since 2017 and I can't believe people buy it still. I guess the "but when it does come, it'll be super expensive so buy it now at the low low price of eight thousand dollars!!" works well on people.
I got to test drive the LR Raven model s a few weeks ago, honestly the car is nice but it’s not a 70-80k car in my opinion. It felt more like a 50k car. But to be fair my ass has been spoiled, while this price drop is nice, overall I think it just brings it closer to what it should cost
I couldn't agree more. Tesla is great - the Model 3/Y are unbelievable deals for the types of cars they are - but the Model S is really not worth all that money whatsoever. It's just slightly bigger than the Model 3 while not being noticeably higher quality or more luxurious. It's still riding the cache from the time "Tesla Model S" represented something out of this world and unattainable. Won't last long - which is why its price has been coming down and down. And it'll come down more.
My wife’s bmw 750. And before anyone jumps on me regarding the superior performance of the Tesla I’m purely talking about comfort and quality of the vehicle.
You don't even have to go to the 7 series for an example. Recently I bought a Mercedes E-350 from 2014 with 60,000 miles on it for $17,500 as I was inbetween cars and needed something while I decided on what actual car to buy.
Coming off of a P100D, I just could not believe how more comfortable the E350 was. The cabin looked and felt so much better, and the driving comfort was out of this world compared to the P100D. Sure, I get the P100D is supposed to be a 'sports car', but
a.) Other Model S's also lack comfort. Ludicrous Teslas are not less comfortable than the others.
b.) Usually sports cars lack comfort because they are sporty. Model S in no way can be characterized as sporty. It's a huge, heavy car with vague steering and doesn't handle well. So it's neither comfortable nor sporty, whereas the E350 was at least very comfortable.
The funny thing is the E350 just felt so much smoother and quieter than the Model S even though it's an ICE car with a slow transmission.
Once again, the Model 3 doesn't really need to be all that comfortable because of its price point, but at least it's quite a bit 'sportier'. Model 3 / Y are amazing cars and crazy good deals, and you'd have to be crazy to pass it up at that price point. I'm just talking about how outdated the Model S has become and how pointless it is becoming relative to other cars and Tesla's own lineup.
BTW, I sold the E350 to Carvana for a thousand dollars more than I paid for it, even including taxes and dealer fees
