Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

[TechVP]

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I believe I took delivery of a complete 5 Seater today in Portland! Car looks really good. Few minor paint issues, but nothing I could take issue with. Overall great experience. X100D in Perl white.

 

[BnBinAlpine]

I'll leave it to others who already have their X's to give you the more authoritative information, but in the meantime I'll give you my observations from looking at photos that others have posted. I was actually thinking about the location of the 2nd row seat in relation to the door opening the other day.

Here are a couple of photos that @hareleyman posted of his 5-seater. What I had been noticing is that the door opening was designed and made wider to make it easier for access to the 3rd row. Because of this, the cushion of the seat is fully exposed, as the photos show, without the wheel well extending past the back of the seat. It seems to me that this would make it possible to face away from the car with your legs against the sill of the door opening and simply sit straight down. Another good thing is that because there's no roof opening edge with the falcon wing doors open, you also don't need to worry about the back of your head hitting the edge of the roof. Unfortunately, no hand holds anywhere from what I understand. Tesla hasn't really paid much attention to the refinements of the design of the interior. They've concentrated of the driving experience, and man!, have they succeeded in that!

As I previously said, this is all speculation on my part (except the driving experience comment, I own a Model S), since I haven't been able to see a 5-seater in person yet. But it gives you something to think about and others can comment. I love that Titanium color, by the way. If it were still available, it's what I would be ordering. In fact, that's the leather i would pick as well. Hey, @hareleyman, if you want to sell your car, let me know (not likely).

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Thanks so much for the info and pics, wish our store had a 5-seater available to examine.
And like you, the Titanium Silver Metallic would have been my choice of color, all the current choices just seem so common and boring! Would love t see a rich emerald green (not the original "muddy" green they had, and a dark cherry or burgundy, sigh.

 

[BnBinAlpine]

What a great son... hope all goes well.

I predict the 5-seater will be the perfect transport vehicle for her, far superior to the 6 or 7 seater due to the reclining action, possibly preference to lie down on her non-operative side, propped up with pillows (personally had hip replacemement).

Don't forget to drop the suspension.

Good point about lowering the suspension for best access. Prior to her fall I had shown her the Model X and she was really looking forward to riding in it (she'd loved riding in the 2011 Leaf I'd leased), and she'd been helping me save up for the X. Just hoping she'll actually be able to go for a ride by the time I take delivery - life is full of surprises...

 

[Jrogville]

I'm going to be giving a ride to some friends to pick up their Model X on Tuesday! It will be my first up and personal with a 5-seater. Looking forward to taking tons of pics of the cargo area and posting here (with their permission, of course). Curious to see what the factory is putting out now.

 

[beths11]

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I believe I took delivery of a complete 5 Seater today in Portland! Car looks really good. Few minor paint issues, but nothing I could take issue with. Overall great experience. X100D in Perl white.

"Don't have permission to view this album." I love to see the pictures.

 

[TechVP]

"Don't have permission to view this album." I love to see the pictures.

Sorry about that. Forum has very limited photo upload capabilities. (My only wish is easier photo uploading, in an otherwise superbly run forum). I was mobile all day and it kept rejecting my multi file uploads. I'll get some prelim. photos up soon.

 

[jgrgnt]

I'm all set for delivery on Monday at 5pm. Let me know if there are any specific photos you would like of the 5-seater. I know there's a ton of interest in the configuration of the rear floor panels, so I'll make sure to capture that.

(Interior is ultra white with perforated seats and the "vegan" steering wheel)

 

[TechVP]

QUOTE="beths11, post: 2024803, member: 13524"]"Don't have permission to view this album." I love to see the pictures.[/QUOTE]

I uploaded the new 5-Seater pictures to a site I run. See the photos at that link. Much easier.

I'll insert one for reference. See the link above for the rest.



From the link above...
First picture is the part number what I was told may be the part some of you are missing -- the top cover. Give me a thumbs up if this correct. Pictures #2 thru 5 are with this panel in place. Pictures #6 and up show the vertical piece that hides the 5-seat backs.

I can take more tomorrow in the daylight. Send me your requests.
Delivery day was just too much fun to stop the music!

 

[AnxietyRanger]

"Don't have permission to view this album." I love to see the pictures.

I uploaded the new 5-Seater pictures to a site I run. See the photos at that link. Much easier.

I'll insert one for reference. See the link above for the rest.

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From the link above...
First picture is the part number what I was told may be the part some of you are missing -- the top cover. Give me a thumbs up if this correct. Pictures #2 thru 5 are with this panel in place. Pictures #6 and up show the vertical piece that hides the 5-seat backs.

I can take more tomorrow in the daylight. Send me your requests.
Delivery day was just too much fun to stop the music!

Well now, those look finally production quality and have the leather loop seen in the Design Studio render! The color also seems to match the rest of the trunk FINALLY and the vertical panel is placed nicely close to the rear seats.

Much improved overall, even the backs of the second row (the bottom areas) seem cleaner with less cables protruding etc. One missing thing: No floor-mounted cargo hooks. Maybe they gave up on them...

I guess it still leaves the one peeve that placing the rearmost panel on the lower level does not create a full flat deeper trunk. For that perhaps a third-party panel must be waited for...

Thank you.

 

[DaddyP713]

Thanks for the pics! Our 5 seat Model X is almost ready for production.

Is there any support along the center of the platforms? We intend to haul fairly heavy loads in our X periodically, and we are concerned about flexing and damaging the platforms.

How strong are they?

 

[ostimusic]

That's great to hear! I'm picking up an X100D from Dedham on Tuesday afternoon!

View attachment 219497 Picked up my Model X 90D 5 seater today. Spent probably about 90 minutes going over the car with the check list and I have to say, the car is perfect. Door alignment, shut lines, electronics, etc.. The DS and staff were amazing at Dedham and went through all the setup, ensured the firmware was up to date, assigned profiles. The rear floor panels seemed very solid and I can't see any issues with them, and i love the rear bench seat. It reclines far more than the 6/7 seater and is very comfortable. All in all, WOW.

 

[boaterva]

Thanks for the pics! Our 5 seat Model X is almost ready for production.

Is there any support along the center of the platforms? We intend to haul fairly heavy loads in our X periodically, and we are concerned about flexing and damaging the platforms.

How strong are they?

Yes, we probably need a video along the lines of the one from a few months ago, showing the layout of the rear space and all the current options of putting the pieces together. . Any takers? All future 5-seater owners would be extremely grateful!

 

[Jrogville]

Well now, those look finally production quality and have the leather loop seen in the Design Studio render! The color also seems to match the rest of the trunk FINALLY and the vertical panel is placed nicely close to the rear seats.

Much improved overall, even the backs of the second row (the bottom areas) seem cleaner with less cables protruding etc. One missing thing: No floor-mounted cargo hooks. Maybe they gave up on them...

I guess it still leaves the one peeve that placing the rearmost panel on the lower level does not create a full flat deeper trunk. For that perhaps a third-party panel must be waited for...

Thank you.

I'm going to get to see the 5-seater in person for myself on Tuesday, but these photos seem to show that you don't get a complete lower floor. There's still the piece missing to cover the rear well area. I still don't understand how Tesla can consider this a complete design.

From these and other photos, it still looks like there is an indentation around that rear well area to receive a panel to cover it and give us a complete flat lower floor. If they're accommodating for it, why not go ahead and provide it? How much can it cost to mass produce it on their somewhat limited scale, $20 or $30? That's a false economy in a car of this level. It will certainly cost me a lot more to have a local auto upholstery shop custom make it for me. And I will have to do that. As I've said before, my main use case will be to have those upper floor panels stored in the garage for the rare need. I will also want the privacy of a covered well storage to keep some items out of site, especially since we also will not get that shelf cover (forget the name) that the Model S gets.

This is another example of Tesla's lack of attention to the small details that add something extra to the experience. Tesla is very focused on the car's function and performance and succeeds to an incredible level. After that, they either don't care or don't have the energy to complete the last few feet of the race. I'm of course talking about things like the lack of hand holds, coat hooks, lighted mirrors, a decent navigation system and the other things. Things that are so easy to take care. Perhaps these details just bore the engineers and they don't want to bother. I had hoped that them hiring the head of interior engineering from Volvo would have lead to some improvements, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference so far. Maybe the effect will show up in the Model 3, but that will be little comfort for those looking to the Model S or X.

 

[Jrogville]

I'm going to get to see the 5-seater in person for myself on Tuesday, but these photos seem to show that you don't get a complete lower floor. There's still the piece missing to cover the rear well area. I still don't understand how Tesla can consider this a complete design.

From these and other photos, it still looks like there is an indentation around that rear well area to receive a panel to cover it and give us a complete flat lower floor. If they're accommodating for it, why not go ahead and provide it? How much can it cost to mass produce it on their somewhat limited scale, $20 or $30? That's a false economy in a car of this level. It will certainly cost me a lot more to have a local auto upholstery shop custom make it for me. And I will have to do that. As I've said before, my main use case will be to have those upper floor panels stored in the garage for the rare need. I will also want the privacy of a covered well storage to keep some items out of site, especially since we also will not get that shelf cover (forget the name) that the Model S gets.

This is another example of Tesla's lack of attention to the small details that add something extra to the experience. Tesla is very focused on the car's function and performance and succeeds to an incredible level. After that, they either don't care or don't have the energy to complete the last few feet of the race. I'm of course talking about things like the lack of hand holds, coat hooks, lighted mirrors, a decent navigation system and the other things. Things that are so easy to take care. Perhaps these details just bore the engineers and they don't want to bother. I had hoped that them hiring the head of interior engineering from Volvo would have lead to some improvements, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference so far. Maybe the effect will show up in the Model 3, but that will be little comfort for those looking to the Model S or X.

You really don't get much time to edit. Small correction from my previous post. The lighted vanity mirror thing only applies to the Model S, not the X.

 

[TechVP]

Thanks for the pics! Our 5 seat Model X is almost ready for production.

Is there any support along the center of the platforms? We intend to haul fairly heavy loads in our X periodically, and we are concerned about flexing and damaging the platforms.

How strong are they?

To answer your question, is there a center support -- If you are asking about center support in the center of the cargo bay, No. The supports are all on the sides.
In my opinion I found the frontmost horizontal platform is the most interesting, as it wedges itself with the rounded shape of the wheel well. Making it fit only one way, and it fits firmly.

On Flexing... I recall seeing one of the first photos in this forum thread with fairly middle age guy in Freemont laying lengthwise on all of the supports. From my opinion, I would say that is true. I believe it will support the weight.

For fairly heavy... I'm not sure... I'll think about that more and go take a look again.
Lets use the case of a full 5 Gallon Paint bucket. Could it support the weight-- I think definitely yes. Would you travel with at 5 Gallon paint bucket like that & no support underneath -- I don't think I would chance it. The panel construction is definitely firm, but not indestructible.

The material the frontmost platform is constructed of seems lighter weight than the panels from when I took a 75D loaner overnight. Lighter weight -- in a good way. Probably same resilience to flexing, yet not heavy. Are they bulky to move... yes, but for that bulk you do get strength. I was happy with their construction, as it seems able. I think what the forum would benefit from is a side picture with the front most panel removed from the car. That will help give you a hint of the material used in their construction. I'll do that soon.

I did ask the delivery specialist about the tie down straps -- and he didn't know what I was talking about. I pointed to where they should be... and they are not obviously (see photos) there. I wish they were... so bummer.

Glad @AnxietyRanger spotted the leather loops. Yes, they are they, and they are nice.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

I'm going to get to see the 5-seater in person for myself on Tuesday, but these photos seem to show that you don't get a complete lower floor. There's still the piece missing to cover the rear well area. I still don't understand how Tesla can consider this a complete design.

From these and other photos, it still looks like there is an indentation around that rear well area to receive a panel to cover it and give us a complete flat lower floor. If they're accommodating for it, why not go ahead and provide it?

I agree Tesla is frustratingly behind on interior design and details, of course. Complete lack of a cover for the entire trunk on the X is of course a large omission as well (I know about the tinting). It is frustrating that Tesla did implement this (not very well, but still) on the Model S and on some of the first Model X's, only to remove it all on Model X later...

One note, though, just in case someone missed it: The rear-most cover is intended to be placed on either lower or higher level. It is that way on the six/seven seater as well. So that allows you to cover the rear well, though not flat - the rear cover (sitting on the higher far edges of the trunk) will remain somewhat higher than the rest of the "storage area" area of the five-seater trunk...

As @Jrogville points out, there are recessions there around the rear well that would accommodate a flat-floor cover. Too bad they are still skimping on that...

Were this a Volvo or an Audi, not only would there be all the covers, there would be crazy telescope holders and floor rail systems and roll-out cover for any side of trunk and all kinds of netting...

 

[TechVP]

My personal observations on the 5-Seat delivered yesterday.
More photos today added at my Tesla Model X 5-Seater Photo Link.

I revise my statement about strength about the cargo panels -- they are strong, and don't flex much considering my 190lbs on them. Could someone sit on these -- definitely yes. Can a person ride back there --- up to you -- yet the panels will hold the weight.

The top row placement is nearly as good as it could be --- in my opinion. If you are wondering about the gap: The gap from the 5-seater seat backs to the frontmost cargo shelf is necessary so that the 2nd row can recline. It gives the 2nd row seats all the room for a comfortable recline.

Perhaps my only disappointment is illustrated in the last couple photos, where you can see the gap between the rear panel and the actual floor is a compromise so the panels can fit together snugly when inserted into the top row placement. Note the iPhone 6S w/ case fits in the gap. And yes, that gap does go to the lower well.

In summary I can clearly see now the objective of a flat cargo space at the height of the folded 2nd row was the primary goal. And if that was the overall objective -- optimistically speaking, I think Tesla succeeded as best they could.

 

[Jrogville]

My personal observations on the 5-Seat delivered yesterday.
More photos today added at my Tesla Model X 5-Seater Photo Link.

I revise my statement about strength about the cargo panels -- they are strong, and don't flex much considering my 190lbs on them. Could someone sit on these -- definitely yes. Can a person ride back there --- up to you -- yet the panels will hold the weight.

The top row placement is nearly as good as it could be --- in my opinion. If you are wondering about the gap: The gap from the 5-seater seat backs to the frontmost cargo shelf is necessary so that the 2nd row can recline. It gives the 2nd row seats all the room for a comfortable recline.

Perhaps my only disappointment is illustrated in the last couple photos, where you can see the gap between the rear panel and the actual floor is a compromise so the panels can fit together snugly when inserted into the top row placement. Note the iPhone 6S w/ case fits in the gap. And yes, that gap does go to the lower well.

In summary I can clearly see now the objective of a flat cargo space at the height of the folded 2nd row was the primary goal. And if that was the overall objective -- optimistically speaking, I think Tesla succeeded as best they could.

Thanks so much for the extra photos, TechVP. It illustrates very well what the situation is with the back panel and covering the well area. Are my conclusions correct that a panel could be built to fit that depression around the well and would be flush with the rest of the lower floor? Is that indentation around the well area present along the back edge of the well as well? Is that depression for the ledge about 1/2 inch thick? Thanks again for responding to all our questions.

 

[jgrgnt]

TechVP, these are fantastic photos and observations. Super helpful!

 

[AnxietyRanger]

@TechVP Thank you!

Note: Tesla has replaced the rear trunk panel as well.

It is no longer the 6/7 seater panel with a pull-up handle, but another leather loop instead. Whether or not this change is for all models or just 5 seater is unknown of course.

This is also why they color match with each other... They do not match with the carpeting though. Tesla still having a hard time matching things...