Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

[TechVP]

@AnxietyRanger

3 new photos added. They are ordered as the last 3 in the sequence.
There is a photo that is labeled where the sun is being exposed to the panel surface, and where the surface is in the shadow. And the same photo w/o the labels. And finally a photo that is all shadow.

Here is the reason for the difference in appearance:
The seat back carpet is approx 3 to 5 mm thick. The panels very nice cover fabric (for lack of a better word) is maybe 1mm thick.

To my eyes, the color itself is close in a way I would consider it a match.
The back seat carpet will appear different in texture, with its 3-5mm depth. Where the panels are a very nice cover, and not carpet.

Let me know if this helps?

 

[Kincaid]

Here is the response I received to the group "explain this" email that included TechVP's photo collection. I sent that email to the Sunnyvale and Fremont service center managers and my Fremont Delivery Specialist:

1. It was the Fremont service center rep who called me back, representing the combined input of everyone else.
2. He was surprised. The TechVP photos clearly have exposed the fact that there is a bit of internecine warfare going on between Tesla's manufacturing crew and its service center crews over who gets first claim on parts.
3. Following apologies for the delays, and acknowledgment that some 5 seat Model X vehicles that were currently being delivered did indeed get delivered with rear cargo panels that had "preliminary updates," the service rep's explanation was that the final design was in fact still being refined and not yet being produced in quantity.
4. The final product will "absolutely" be produced, and installed first in those vehicles already delivered, within 3 to 4 weeks. That was the promise.

I made two requests:
1. Weekly updates on progress.
2. That Tesla take note of and consider a compensation package of meaningful upgrades (auto pilot/autonomous driving software updates, something?) for owners inconvenienced for months by the back seat flooring blues.

Bottom line: same old, same old. Who knows? The stock was way up today, headed for all time highs, and since the frustrating delays in our rear cargo flooring panels are likely the result of hastening the Model Y launch dates, then we are all well served by rooting for an early and robust Model Y launch. Any sign of an early Model Y launch and strong delivery numbers before 2018 will produce a generous TSLA uptick to compensate for mundane frustrations like flooring.

Still, there is no satisfactory explanation for the school yard reality: "how come TechVP got a really nice cargo floor and I didn't....yet?"

 

[Jrogville]

Thanks profusely for the detailed photos and assessment of the covers.

In my case, when I talk of hauling significant weight periodically, I'm talking about 600-1000 lbs.

Based on your description, I think I'm going to have to make a support structure for the platform. I might also make a rear cover that rides flat when the middle platform is removed.

I also need to look into adding some tie down points on all of the platforms so that I can secure dog crates and other cargo that I don't want shifting around.

Thanks, and please keep updating with more pics!

When you're hauling that much weight, why not just remove the upper floor panels and place the load on the lower floor which doesn't have the span and deflection issue?

 

[ratchet]

There is a new thread on the Tesla forum where the owner was carrying 250 lbs spread across the upper shelf behind the 3rd row seats. He broke the plastic side brackets when he hit a bump. Seems that the brackets are more of a limiting factor than the shelves. I recommended the same as @Jrogville (place heavy stuff on the lower floor).

I broke my trunk shelves, any ideas on how to fix? | Tesla

 

[Shumdit]

Here is the response I received to the group "explain this" email that included TechVP's photo collection. I sent that email to the Sunnyvale and Fremont service center managers and my Fremont Delivery Specialist:

1. It was the Fremont service center rep who called me back, representing the combined input of everyone else.
2. He was surprised. The TechVP photos clearly have exposed the fact that there is a bit of internecine warfare going on between Tesla's manufacturing crew and its service center crews over who gets first claim on parts.
3. Following apologies for the delays, and acknowledgment that some 5 seat Model X vehicles that were currently being delivered did indeed get delivered with rear cargo panels that had "preliminary updates," the service rep's explanation was that the final design was in fact still being refined and not yet being produced in quantity.
4. The final product will "absolutely" be produced, and installed first in those vehicles already delivered, within 3 to 4 weeks. That was the promise.

I made two requests:
1. Weekly updates on progress.
2. That Tesla take note of and consider a compensation package of meaningful upgrades (auto pilot/autonomous driving software updates, something?) for owners inconvenienced for months by the back seat flooring blues.

Bottom line: same old, same old. Who knows? The stock was way up today, headed for all time highs, and since the frustrating delays in our rear cargo flooring panels are likely the result of hastening the Model Y launch dates, then we are all well served by rooting for an early and robust Model Y launch. Any sign of an early Model Y launch and strong delivery numbers before 2018 will produce a generous TSLA uptick to compensate for mundane frustrations like flooring.

Still, there is no satisfactory explanation for the school yard reality: "how come TechVP got a really nice cargo floor and I didn't....yet?"

I think you mean model E, not Y?

 

[Kincaid]

I think you mean model E, not Y?

Oops. We both mean Model 3 !

 

[DaddyP713]

When you're hauling that much weight, why not just remove the upper floor panels and place the load on the lower floor which doesn't have the span and deflection issue?

Yeah, that sounds like this is the thing to do.

 

[TechVP]

Not to hijack the thread, but I wonder how do people attach a trunk organizer (not the one in the lower compartment, but in the flat area)? There don't appear to be any hooks you can connect to to ensure the organizer does not fly around while driving?

Hi @verygreen Here is the best option: Take a look at my 5-Seater Photo Set for more pics. For reference this a photo near the end of the sequence. See the illustration of an anchor labeled on the 2nd row seatback?. There are 3 anchor points -- one for each seat -- one is not shown in the frame. Look closely and you can make out slits in the carpet. Behind those slits -- at about 1" recessed is a metal tie-down anchor. While intended for a child seat -- I believe they will function for a cargo strap anchor.

Also study the photo sequence, and check out the long shot viewing all the way through the car. You can see the location nearest the rear hatch where there are two anchors mounted on each side of the cargo area. Yes, it would be nice to have more -- but at least we have two there. Still very useful for cargo tie-downs.

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I also want to note for everyone viewing this photo the position of the front most 2nd floor shelf was pushed towards the 2nd row for this photo sequence only. For this photo sequence we were comparing color and texture match. The position of the Front Shelf is not how it naturally sits. See the earlier photos in the 5-Seater Photo Set for how it is designed to sit. Normally there is a gap there. That gap is required for all 3 seats in the 2nd row to recline. In a reclined position the seats nearly touch the Front most shelf. When the 2nd row is in its default upright position, there is a gap of, perhaps, a couple inches. See photo set for a proper reference.

Happy to post further photos. Let me know.

 

[essmd]

Not to hijack the thread, but I wonder how do people attach a trunk organizer (not the one in the lower compartment, but in the flat area)? There don't appear to be any hooks you can connect to to ensure the organizer does not fly around while driving?

I have a trunk organizer in the Frunk... Works great

 

[verygreen]

I have a trunk organizer in the Frunk... Works great

Well, not as convenient to access while on the road (by passengers in the second row).

 

[TechVP]

I wonder how do people attach a trunk organizer

@verygreen

My surprise today when I located two more tie down locations.
Each Spring loaded tab is located under the C Pillar area:

I don't recall these being mentioned before. It appears you could clip something on the lower horizontal bar, behind this tab.
Advice, experience & comments appreciated.

 

[essmd]

Well, not as convenient to access while on the road (by passengers in the second row).

Oops, I misunderstood your message thinking most rear (which you clearly said it was not), but think got it now.

There are ways to secure organizers, like nets, or velcro-based dividers, etc.

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[Kincaid]

Frustrating sight. I am in Fremont this morning, having driven a friend up here to pick up his 5 seat Model X. His rear cargo flooring configuration (photo attached) appears to be an earlier design along the pot luck sequence line than the design delivered to TechVP. No sign of the leather lift straps.
There is now no question in my mind that 5 seat Model X vehicles being currently delivered are outfitted with whatever flooring panel design is available from the storage rack to make the cars look "finished". Those of us already in possession of our cars will be waiting until the final design of the flooring panels is available in sufficient quantity to retrofit all cars afflicted with the 5 seat cargo flooring blues.
We decided not to intrude on the fun of picking up the car by trying to interrogate any of the Tesla employees about 5 seat flooring issues.
We're going to be thankful for what we have and go play some tennis.

 

[TechVP]

Frustrating sight. ... appears to be an earlier design along the pot luck sequence line than the design delivered to TechVP. No sign of the leather lift straps.

How completely frustrating. Was there a due bill on the X for the parts?

...Suspecting that the Tigard/Portland delivery center is getting more love.

Let me know if there is a photo or detail anybody could use from my X.
I am hopeful all of this mystery will end soon & everybody w/ a 5 seater is made whole.

-TechVP

 

[beths11]

Frustrating sight. I am in Fremont this morning, having driven a friend up here to pick up his 5 seat Model X. His rear cargo flooring configuration (photo attached) appears to be an earlier design along the pot luck sequence line than the design delivered to TechVP. No sign of the leather lift straps.
There is now no question in my mind that 5 seat Model X vehicles being currently delivered are outfitted with whatever flooring panel design is available from the storage rack to make the cars look "finished". Those of us already in possession of our cars will be waiting until the final design of the flooring panels is available in sufficient quantity to retrofit all cars afflicted with the 5 seat cargo flooring blues.
We decided not to intrude on the fun of picking up the car by trying to interrogate any of the Tesla employees about 5 seat flooring issues.
We're going to be thankful for what we have and go play some tennis.
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Come on. Looks like what was delivered to me in DEC. Really ok, just no leather loops, which for me, aren't a necessity and I rather like the look of the metal lift assembly on the rear most panel vs. a leather loop.

 

[jgrgnt]

We took delivery of our 5-seater on Monday and we're fortunate to also have the same (latest?) floor panels as TechVP.

Note the plastic tabs underneath the larger panel to prevent it from sliding forward.

 

[Kincaid]

We took delivery of our 5-seater on Monday and we're fortunate to also have the same (latest?) floor panels as TechVP.

Note the plastic tabs underneath the larger panel to prevent it from sliding forward.

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Nice pictures! Thank you. The evidence is mounting that the factory has flooring parts that it does not share with the Service Centers. The most surprising thing is that you took delivery in California, not Oregon. I posted a picture of a 5 seat Model X delivered today in Fremont with cargo area flooring panels whose design was circa the beths11 delivery era.

 

[essmd]

Well, just hoping my 5-er delivery in May will have the new design.

Kudos and Bummer to Kincaid's friend, I would not have been so graceful about the older solution on a new delivery.

 

[Saxman]

Frustrating sight. I am in Fremont this morning, having driven a friend up here to pick up his 5 seat Model X. His rear cargo flooring configuration (photo attached) appears to be an earlier design along the pot luck sequence line than the design delivered to TechVP. No sign of the leather lift straps.
There is now no question in my mind that 5 seat Model X vehicles being currently delivered are outfitted with whatever flooring panel design is available from the storage rack to make the cars look "finished". Those of us already in possession of our cars will be waiting until the final design of the flooring panels is available in sufficient quantity to retrofit all cars afflicted with the 5 seat cargo flooring blues.
We decided not to intrude on the fun of picking up the car by trying to interrogate any of the Tesla employees about 5 seat flooring issues.
We're going to be thankful for what we have and go play some tennis.
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I'm very confused. This photo appears to be identical to mine delivered Dec 2016. Why do you think this is not the final flooring confrontation?

What doesn't look like it is supposed to?

 

[Jrogville]

I'm very confused. This photo appears to be identical to mine delivered Dec 2016. Why do you think this is not the final flooring confrontation?

What doesn't look like it is supposed to?

The most current configuration has leather straps a the back edges of both the front and rear panels, not the spring loaded thing on the rear panel you see on the photo, or nothing at all on the front panel.

Take a look at these photos that @TechVP posted earlier:

Tesla X100D 5 Seater 3.25.2017

Also, I can't tell if this is visible on these photos, I personally saw one of these at a delivery last Tuesday, and there is now a big Tesla 'T' emblem woven into the fabric of the forward upper panel. Sorry, but I didn't take a photo. Didn't think it would show up, but it definitely shows up in person. Very classy.