Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

[Kincaid]

My personal observations on the 5-Seat delivered yesterday.
More photos today added at my Tesla Model X 5-Seater Photo Link.

I revise my statement about strength about the cargo panels -- they are strong, and don't flex much considering my 190lbs on them. Could someone sit on these -- definitely yes. Can a person ride back there --- up to you -- yet the panels will hold the weight.

The top row placement is nearly as good as it could be --- in my opinion. If you are wondering about the gap: The gap from the 5-seater seat backs to the frontmost cargo shelf is necessary so that the 2nd row can recline. It gives the 2nd row seats all the room for a comfortable recline.

Perhaps my only disappointment is illustrated in the last couple photos, where you can see the gap between the rear panel and the actual floor is a compromise so the panels can fit together snugly when inserted into the top row placement. Note the iPhone 6S w/ case fits in the gap. And yes, that gap does go to the lower well.

In summary I can clearly see now the objective of a flat cargo space at the height of the folded 2nd row was the primary goal. And if that was the overall objective -- optimistically speaking, I think Tesla succeeded as best they could.

TechVP: thank you immensely. That rear cargo flooring photo album you provided is definitive. The parts installed in your vehicle are clearly parts that have not been been installed on any of the other vehicles we have seen on this forum, and certainly not seen on parts in my Model X. The unsettling reality of the photos you have provided is cast against my lengthy conversation I had with the manager of the Tesla Service Center in Fremont on Friday. He very clearly stated that the updated version of the 5 seat cargo flooring panels was not yet available. I don't have the heart or the stomach to give him a call back on Monday and start a flooring confrontation. But this flooring fiasco, and the alternate realities being served up by Fremont, and just plain disinformation, is so strange.

You are fortunate to be above it all. Congrats on your new car, and enjoy the smooth and streamlined cargo capacity back there in what in my car is known as "no man's land."

 

[Jrogville]

TechVP: thank you immensely. That rear cargo flooring photo album you provided is definitive. The parts installed in your vehicle are clearly parts that have not been been installed on any of the other vehicles we have seen on this forum, and certainly not seen on parts in my Model X. The unsettling reality of the photos you have provided is cast against my lengthy conversation I had with the manager of the Tesla Service Center in Fremont on Friday. He very clearly stated that the updated version of the 5 seat cargo flooring panels was not yet available. I don't have the heart or the stomach to give him a call back on Monday and start a flooring confrontation. But this flooring fiasco, and the alternate realities being served up by Fremont, and just plain disinformation, is so strange.

You are fortunate to be above it all. Congrats on your new car, and enjoy the smooth and streamlined cargo capacity back there in what in my car is known as "no man's land."

Kincaid, don't call the Tesla guy back, just email him some of those photos with the delivery date for that car and simply ask "Explain?"

 

[Kincaid]

Kincaid, don't call the Tesla guy back, just email him some of those photos with the delivery date for that car and simply ask "Explain?"

Done. Time for some answers. I sent a group email to my Delivery Specialist, and the Service Managers at the Tesla Service Centers in Sunnyvale and in Fremont. The email included a link to TechVP's cargo area flooring photo album and noted the 3/26/2017 delivery date in Portland, OR.

 

[verygreen]

Not to hijack the thread, but I wonder how do people attach a trunk organizer (not the one in the lower compartment, but in the flat area)? There don't appear to be any hooks you can connect to to ensure the organizer does not fly around while driving?

 

[beths11]

TechVP: thank you immensely. That rear cargo flooring photo album you provided is definitive. The parts installed in your vehicle are clearly parts that have not been been installed on any of the other vehicles we have seen on this forum, and certainly not seen on parts in my Model X. The unsettling reality of the photos you have provided is cast against my lengthy conversation I had with the manager of the Tesla Service Center in Fremont on Friday. He very clearly stated that the updated version of the 5 seat cargo flooring panels was not yet available. I don't have the heart or the stomach to give him a call back on Monday and start a flooring confrontation. But this flooring fiasco, and the alternate realities being served up by Fremont, and just plain disinformation, is so strange.

You are fortunate to be above it all. Congrats on your new car, and enjoy the smooth and streamlined cargo capacity back there in what in my car is known as "no man's land."

I would say the panels are a bit different from mine in that they have leather loops. Otherwise the support system, and fit is the same.

 

[TechVP]

@Kincaid I think photos of the order codes on the bottom of the two panels would be helpful. One is is there. I'll add the other.
If you check back by tomorrow I'll try and add what I find. Please up vote my prior photo link post so more folks will find it.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

This here is the moneyshot, showing the never before seen (other than Design Studio CGI) five-seater forward and rearward trunk floor/shelf panels with leather loops.

What it unfortunately also shows is Tesla still having a hard time color-matching the new panels, as they use a different colored material as the seatbacks and the floor underneath them. The floor/shelf panels are a darker black. However, at least they match each other - unlike the older 6/7 seater rear trunk floor/shelf panel that looked mismatched next to the five-seater forward floor/shelf panel (seen below).

Courtesy @TechVP at Tesla X100D 5 Seater 3.25.2017

The previous version with the 6/7 seater borrowed, lighter grey rear panel with its pull-up handle instead of leather loop:

Comparison images: Speculation: Model X five seater is missing a panel to hide seat bottoms?

 

[TechVP]

That rear cargo flooring photo album you provided is definitive. The parts installed in your vehicle are clearly parts that have not been been installed on any of the other vehicles we have seen on this forum, and certainly not seen on parts in my Model X.

@Kincaid I added a photo of the rearmost panel bar code & order info to my Tesla Model X 5-Seater Photo Link. Just for you.

@AnxietyRanger I did not have the impression the color match of my panels in my X are dissimilar.
I'll look again really close at the car tomorrow in the daylight. Based on my first hand account any differences may possibly be the DSLR camera and/or Flash I was using, the way the fabric was last rubbed (I did rub off some rain water that dripped on one panel -- which may suggest a different look).

Still taking photo requests... let me know and I'll put them up.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

@TechVP To be clear, your car is first five seater we've seen here where the removable panels are matching between themselves (the 6/7 seater rear panel color does not mach with the five seater panels). The issue is the seatbacks and floor fabric underneath are still lighter like the removable panel is in the 6/7 seater.

So the new five seater panels are not quite color matched with the older/rest of car fabrics/materials. It is not just your photos. It is all photos and video. Probably a new supplier?

 

[TechVP]

it still looks like there is an indentation around that rear well area to receive a panel to cover it and give us a complete flat lower floor. If they're accommodating for it, why not go ahead and provide it? How much can it cost to mass produce it on their somewhat limited scale, $20 or $30?

@Jrogville
I missed replying to this post yesterday. Yes you make a good point.
In my opinion, after going out and re-examining what you are explaining: Yes, a panel could be made to fit for a completely flat floor. I'll ask the question for you -- so why doesn't it fit already? There current shelf fits a) on the top level, and b) on the low level -- yet there is a place for c) lowest level that can be 1. Flat, and 2. close completely. I'll try to take proper pictures of this tomorrow. I tried in limited light & it didn't give the proper perspective.
I would not be surprised if someone even created a panel of there own simply to do just what you described. I think it would work. More Monday.

 

[TechVP]

@AnxietyRanger Will check in the daylight and confirm your request in more detail.

 

[DaddyP713]

Thanks profusely for the detailed photos and assessment of the covers.

In my case, when I talk of hauling significant weight periodically, I'm talking about 600-1000 lbs.

Based on your description, I think I'm going to have to make a support structure for the platform. I might also make a rear cover that rides flat when the middle platform is removed.

I also need to look into adding some tie down points on all of the platforms so that I can secure dog crates and other cargo that I don't want shifting around.

Thanks, and please keep updating with more pics!

 

[Amp Dup]

FWIW: In early Feb. my Service Adviser said load floor panels would be available end of Mar. I had an appointment on Mar. 28 for another issue. I asked if the load floor panels could be installed at the same visit (admittedly, wishful thinking!)
I was told that, no the parts were still not available and nobody at Tesla could say when they would be. I said that sounded like nobody was working on them. She said no, they WERE working on them. But I could only imagine everybody working on Model 3.
So these pictures have given me new hope that maybe the 5 seater is not entirely forgotten! Thanks

 

[vandacca]

...
Were this a Volvo or an Audi, not only would there be all the covers, there would be crazy telescope holders and floor rail systems and roll-out cover for any side of trunk and all kinds of netting...

I feel like Tesla has to really balance their design to be useful and light-weight. They need to keep weight down as much as possible in order to minimize impacts to range. That's one advantage to these simple solutions.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

Tesla has to really balance their design to be useful and light-weight. They need to keep weight down as much as possible in order to minimize impacts to range. That's one advantage to these simple solutions.

Yes, about that...

 

[TechVP]

Thanks profusely for the detailed photos and assessment of the covers.

In my case, when I talk of hauling significant weight periodically, I'm talking about 600-1000 lbs.

Based on your description, I think I'm going to have to make a support structure for the platform. I might also make a rear cover that rides flat when the middle platform is removed.

I also need to look into adding some tie down points on all of the platforms so that I can secure dog crates and other cargo that I don't want shifting around.

Thanks, and please keep updating with more pics!

@DaddyP713
Yes for 200lbs and up I would definitely add a support structure. That is the safest way to haul a load of that size.
I really want to see what you come up with. While I will probably carry loads up to 200lbs -- I'm intrigued what you can get in that space.
And I concur on the tie-downs. One point of reference is on the seatbacks for the 2nd row are slits in each seat. Within the seat backs and behind the slits are the anchor points for Child seat straps. One for each seat, totaling 3. Those are definitely tie down points that can be used for cargo. Perhaps why the others were omitted?? Just a thought.

The horizontal platform pieces have a lightweight feel of styrofoam -- yet it's a disservice to suggest they are styrofoam. They are made from a much higher quality (space age?) material. Someone here may be able to enlighten us with what the panels are composed of -- they are indeed strong. When you knock on them, they make a sound like wood -- yet don't have the bulk or weight of moving wood with carpet on them. I like them, personally. They are confidently solid.

@AnxietyRanger I enjoyed the photo repost of the Guy in Freemont laying in the cargo area. The way I had recalled it, he was laying on the front most panel. Which, now I review the photo, actually he is placing most of his weight on the folded 2nd row seatbacks.
I think he could have done one better. That photo could definitely be retaken with the guy placing all of his weight on the front horizontal panel. I didn't try the rear panel. I expect the panels in position will hold a person's weight. In fact I sat with legs folded on just the front panel to see how much it would flex. It flexes a bit, but not in a way that I was concerned about. The panels are definitely solid and it would take concerted effort to make them fail.

 

[Jrogville]

@TechVP To be clear, your car is first five seater we've seen here where the removable panels are matching between themselves (the 6/7 seater rear panel color does not mach with the five seater panels). The issue is the seatbacks and floor fabric underneath are still lighter like the removable panel is in the 6/7 seater.

So the new five seater panels are not quite color matched with the older/rest of car fabrics/materials. It is not just your photos. It is all photos and video. Probably a new supplier?

Could the difference in color be the cause of lighting? In the photo above, the seat backs are getting more light from the open FWD.

 

[Michelx]

TechVP Thank you very much for all those photos.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

@AnxietyRanger I enjoyed the photo repost of the Guy in Freemont laying in the cargo area. The way I had recalled it, he was laying on the front most panel. Which, now I review the photo, actually he is placing most of his weight on the folded 2nd row seatbacks.
I think he could have done one better. That photo could definitely be retaken with the guy placing all of his weight on the front horizontal panel. I didn't try the rear panel. I expect the panels in position will hold a person's weight. In fact I sat with legs folded on just the front panel to see how much it would flex. It flexes a bit, but not in a way that I was concerned about. The panels are definitely solid and it would take concerted effort to make them fail.

The reason for that is actually far simpler in this case.

The car (where the person is in the trunk) did not have the vertical panel (that supports the front of the forward panel) at all. It was basically being supported by the round side-wall plastic. It was one of those incomplete versions Tesla shipped to its stores around the end of year...

 

[AnxietyRanger]

Could the difference in color be the cause of lighting? In the photo above, the seat backs are getting more light from the open FWD.

I do not think so. The only panels that seem to have a different color than the rest of the car are the new ones: the new front panel and the new rear panel with the leather loop... the old rear panel (with the pull-up handle) matches teh car's fabrics better.