I think at the moment, they'd be perfectly happy to have people jump ship to the Model S.
Well people that just want a tesla or long range EV would do that.
But not people that want an SUV, they will either wait or buy somewhere else.
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I think at the moment, they'd be perfectly happy to have people jump ship to the Model S.
Tesla you have to show us something to convince us to keep waiting for the Model X.
I think at the moment, they'd be perfectly happy to have people jump ship to the Model S. I doubt they're going to show us anything for the time being.
Agreed. (And why I said 'at the moment'. Obviously this can't happen in the future. But that's in the future. This is now.)Some people are losing patience though. Many Tesla loyalists will wait, but delays of this length won't go over well when Tesla launches high-volume products in the future.
I'm w/ the other WA owners. If the tax exemption is not extended, I will probably cancel the Sig X. Either drop to a regular production X, wait for a used one, or change it to a Sig 3 reservation.
In the meantime we're buying a used P85+. That should make the wait much more palatable.
Both of my P85s sold for more than I bought them for, (sold privately, bought from Tesla originally)
If that's a true statement, that's way out of the normal experience and should not be relied upon. Take our Model S for example. 2013 S85 purchased for high 80s with 21k miles. Tesla's quote for a trade in was $55k and maybe if I'm lucky I can sell it for $70k. Always count on cars depreciating...rarely do they ever appreciate.
Both of my P85s sold for more than I bought them for, (sold privately, bought from Tesla originally)
I had this whole post about how you couldn't have bought a P85 back in 2013 for less than $86k but I'm not interested in going OT or starting a fight.Did you try Carmax? Tesla told me 58k on my 2013 P85, Carmax quoted me $81k, (sold privately for $86k).
That is certainly a good rule of thumb.In my experience when companies that habitually slip dates announce "Q3 2015", it means: "Don't get your hopes up for anything before September 30". :tongue:Originally Posted by scottf200
Seems like this will affect sigs more than genprod assuming this is true: "This will also allow for a more rapid production ramp compared to Model S in 2012."
Disappointed but absolutely keeping my reservation. Hoping for July 2015 delivery as I have travel plans in August in it!!
Elon MuskSure. So with the X production, it's difficult for us to give -- I would have to give something with very, very big bounding numbers for X production next year because it really depends on how well that production ramp goes. If we encounter any issues that require correction, then we obviously want to slow that production ramp down.
If things go really well we will ramp it up. We do have the advantage with the X that we’ve the dual motor powertrain and the chassis. So the bottom end of the car kind of sorted out with Model S that takes that part of the risk out of it.
With the falcon wing door and the second row of seats and sort of a few other things, we're adding some very new stuff to -- that's really not out there, that never really has existed in a way that was useful. So it's hard to say what those numbers would be, except I'm confident that the demand for the X will be very high once we're in production and again we will be production-limited because it is really a phenomenal car.
It really addresses a different market segment that some people want an SUV and some people want a sedan and they're about 50:50 in the market. So that's why we feel confident in predicting a 50% growth in orders and deliveries that's fairly comfortable next year and then at least a 50% growth in 2016 again and in subsequent years too.
We have been thinking about cancelling the X reservation and get an S instead, but we need the towing capabillity for our car number 2
Elon has stated a couple of times that the Model X will have class-leading towing capabilities.I am not aware of any statements by Tesla as to what towing capability, if any, the X will have. I don't see why it would be any different from the S Dual Motor since that is the X drivetrain as well, and as far as I know Tesla does not ascribe any towing capability to the Model S D.